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Over the years I've come across a variety of SEO Badges. One of the more frequent badge sightings are those from TOPSEOs.com. When did TOPSEOs become an Independent Authority on Search Vendors? I have many unanswered questions and I'm hoping the Founders of TOPSEOs will get involved at this level to discuss those.


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from pageoneresults 1670 Days ago #
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TOPSEOs, I'm interested in the voting policies and procedures being followed that allow an SEO Company to claim they are The #1 SEO company in the world. This could quite possibly be false and misleading advertising.

I'm interested in how SEO firms are ranked at TOPSEOs. From what I've gathered, those SEOs are paying to be ranked, is that correct?

I'd like to discuss the yearly SEO and PPC Competitions where TOPSEOs Members are paying $5,000 just to enter.

I'm sure there will be many other questions that arise during the progression of this topic. Please do join us and help us clear up our concerns. Thank you.



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from pageoneresults 1670 Days ago #
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Question: Do any of the TOPSEOs Founders, Owners and/or Executives have a vested interest in any of the top 50 companies being ranked? If so, which companies?



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from Jill 1670 Days ago #
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My experience with them was that when they were brand new, they listed my company, High Rankings, in their top 10. There was no payment involved as I believe they were brand new, or fairly new.

Then they send me emails to let me know, which also told me I should promote the fact that I was listed.

They even sent snail mail that provided ways to promote the fact that my company was listed. I believe the materials may have also provided ways in which I could advertise my company with them.

I threw it all in the trash.

They kept emailing, and I believe they called as well. I told them I was not interested in their unsolicited emails, snailmails and calls, and to please take me off their spam lists.

Interestingly enough, High Rankings didn't appear in their top SEOs list ever again. I guess my company suddenly sucked, even though it was good enough to be listed originally.

Since that time, I have had a horrible taste in my mouth for their company and also for the SEO companies who feel the need to pay them to be listed. It's extremely annoying that SEO companies can claim to be one of the best SEOs in the world, simply because they advertise with this other company, who, in my opinion, give preference to companies who advertise with them, rather than actually choosing the best companies in the world.



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from davidiwanow 1670 Days ago #
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Outside of the issue here is my interview with Jeev earlier this month at SMX West, it is the closest i can think that allows them to explain about their service or point of difference.

SMX Interview with TopSEOs.com

I'm not sure about vested interests or anything from a paid perspective about quality or rankings.



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from NickWilsdon 1670 Days ago #
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First I heard about TopSEOs was in 2007 - when Todd pointed to their 'competition'. From our discussions there, I got the impression from David Ogden that this was about buying promotion. In my opinion, the ROI was questionable.

It's sad to see they may have gained reputation since then. I guess this is what happens with the 'leave alone/ignore' approach which makes me so glad Charlie's/Chuck's (?) plan was killed in the bud.



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from AlanBleiweiss 1670 Days ago #
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I think there's a huge problem with the whole TOPSEOs offering.  What it feels like is that though some quite legitimate companies have bought into the directory, there's enough scum seeded in there to make me want to vomit.  The fact that some of that scum has received many "awards" tells me this fish stinks like it was found on the bottom of a sewer.  Every person in our industry I've talked to who had previously participated and did not choose to pay the ridiculously high fees has either been dropped from the system altogether or fallen to the basement at one point or another.  What a coincidence.


I also think many if not most of the "reviews" on their profile pages are pure fantasy made up by someone sitting at a desk being paid $1 an hour to stuff reviews.


I'm curious though to find out what Bruce Clay has to say about this since they're an "official" member.



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from qwerty 1670 Days ago #
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Any big firms that are caught up in this sort of thing probably just view it as part of their regular marketing budget. At least that's what they'll say.



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from pageoneresults 1670 Days ago #
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I have had a horrible taste in my mouth for their company and also for the SEO companies who feel the need to pay them to be listed.

Watch it! We have a one time review fee and if not listed, it is refunded. If I'm going to spend a few hours reviewing your online presence, I'm going to ask that you compensate me for it. At the same time, I'm going to list you in the directory if you pass muster. It's a simple process. Nothing is free! Although I've been known to comp listings every now and then.

Outside of the issue here is my interview with Jeev earlier this month at SMX West, it is the closest I can think that allows them to explain about their service or point of difference.

I'm going to watch that again but I didn't really see anything there that convinced me that TOPSEOs is an Independent Authority on Search Vendors. I didn't know you did interviews? What about the questions off camera? What were some of those? ;)

I'm not sure about vested interests or anything from a paid perspective about quality or rankings.

The more I review the site along with those listed in the Top 30s and Top 50s, I get this sneaky suspicion that something isn't right, I can't quite put my finger on it yet. If there are any associations uncovered, I'll be the first to publish them. I've earmarked 20 hours of this upcoming week to research those who have paid for the Membership Fees and are participating in the Competitions.

Are you ready for this? Based on my research to date, and current published information on TOPSEOs.com, some members are paying $42,000.00 per year for their memberships. Yes, that's right, $42,000.00. Others are paying $30,000.00 or $12,000.00 per year. And then there are the Basic Memberships which are not paid. They represent a large percentage of the 4,000+ TOPSEOs Members.

It appears that those same members who pay $42,000.00 also pay $5,000.00 to enter the yearly competitions. If they enter both the SEO and PPC Competitions, they pay $10,000.00! I don't know about you, but I would NEVER pay any organization those types of fees. Who are these SEO Companies that will spend that type of money on yearly memberships? What exactly are they getting out of that membership? ROI?

I have all sorts of questions and you can believe I'll be asking as many as I can during the progression of this topic. I sure hope Sphinn can keep those HTML Errors in check while we do all this Commenting. ;)

First I heard about TOPSEOs was in 2007 - when Todd pointed to their 'competition'. From our discussions there, I got the impression from David Ogden that this was about buying promotion. In my opinion, the ROI was questionable.

I've followed them from day one. I've kept a binder of information from the date they launched. Unfortunately I do have other responsibilities and I've failed to keep a close eye on them these past couple of years. It appears that they've picked up some steam with a rather large membership and some very hefty fees that SEOs are apparently paying.

It's sad to see they may have gained reputation since then. I guess this is what happens with the 'leave alone/ignore' approach which makes me so glad Charlie's/Chuck's (?) plan was killed in the bud.

I don't think they really have Nick. We're going to find out just how much reputation they've gained. If their membership is truly supportive of their business model, business ethics, etc., then those Top 30 and Top 50 Members will be over here joining the discussion. I'm reviewing each and every one of them this week. One by one, I'll be giving them a cursory glance. Those claiming to be The #1 SEO Company in the World can stand by, is that understood? ;)

Every person in our industry I've talked to who had previously participated and did not choose to pay the ridiculously high fees has either been dropped from the system altogether or fallen to the basement at one point or another. What a coincidence.

You know, I've heard that more than enough times now to believe it. I'm putting together a sample timeline of complaints where this particular practice has been discussed previously. In fact, I do believe there is a current Ripoff Report to this effect.

I also think many if not most of the "reviews" on their profile pages are pure fantasy made up by someone sitting at a desk being paid $1 an hour to stuff reviews.

I've read hundreds of them. Some of them are downright nasty and I'm really surprised that the companies being reviewed have not responded.

I'm curious though to find out what Bruce Clay has to say about this since they're an "official" member.

Bruce Clay is an Official Member? That means he is paying $30,000.00 per year for that TOPSEOs Badge. Hmmm, Bruce, what exactly is going on there?

Any big firms that are caught up in this sort of thing probably just view it as part of their regular marketing budget. At least that's what they'll say.

We're going to put that to the test. Regular marketing budget? $12.000.00, $30,000.00 or $42,000.00 per year? Not to mention any other fees like Competitions at $5,000.00 per. Exactly which SEO Companies are budgeting those types of funds for TOPSEOs? And why? WHY? Talk to us TOPSEOs.



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from toddmintz 1670 Days ago #
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I took over a small PPC gig from the "#1 PPC vendor"...the quality of the work was atrocious...I had to literally start from scratch.

I am seeing some negative reviews on company pages that haven't been taken down.  Overall their whole enterprise seems nothing better than a high-level lead generation business.




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from pageoneresults 1669 Days ago #
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I woke up to an inbox full of information! Since most of this information is unconfirmed at the moment, it stays unpublished. But, based on that information and what I've gathered over the years, I'd say it was fairly accurate. I'll save that for the juicy stuff as they say. Me hole card.

I'd like to sit here and paint the picture for you based on the timeline I've assembled that covers a span of years. But, that picture would still be a little blurry as there are some missing links in this process. I've earmarked time this week to search for those, they should be easy to find, I just need to invest the time to find Point A. ;)

I do hope that we can expect some commentary from the Founders of TOPSEOs along with those members who are sporting badges that require monthly fees, with the least expensive being the Silver Membership at $1,000.00 per month.

I've reviewed the Top 10 SEOs from each of the five countries represented. I've confirmed their membership status by reviewing the information displayed on the TOPSEOs website. As of 2010-03-29, there are 3 Silver, 7 Official and 8 Ultimate Badges being displayed. Remember, I only went through the Top 10, there could be more. The list is 50 long for the United States and 30 long for the other 4 countries. Estimated monthly membership fees being collected? $51,500.00

If you are one of those Top 10 SEOs sporting a TOPSEOs Badge, we'll hope you'll join us here and help us to understand the ROI you're getting at these types of prices. If I wanted to be sarcastic, I might say those are some expensive monthly link leases. ;)



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from MarkJackson 1669 Days ago #
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As a former "#1 SEO Firm" (I was the President of Zunch "back in the day", and - to my knowledge - we were one of the first participants in TopSEOs rankings), I can tell you that not a single client of ours was contacted to even confirm that we did SEO much less if we were any good at it. I've written about this a number of times:On Search Engine Watch - http://searchenginewatch.com/3630430On the Vizion Blog in 2007  - http://www.vizioninteractive.com/top-seo-companies/And again, earlier this year - http://www.vizioninteractive.com/top-seos-my-rant-continues/Unless they have changed their ways, TOPSEOs.com continues to be "part of the problem" and not part of the solution, in our Industry. I have asked those who are involved in marketing themselves on topseos.com to either stop, or use their influence to get the folks at topseos.com to be more transparent with their "rankings". As previous posters have mentioned, when there are some legitimate firms participating, it lends credibility to a list that  - IMO - is suspect, at best.As I've mentioned in my SEW column, call it was it is...paid advertising. The problem here is that - unlike airline magazines that promote the "Top Steakhouses in the US", most "common folk" who come across the site do not know or understand that this is a pay-to-play situation  (and not a cheap entry fee, at that). That said, when I did participate "back in the day", I can tell you that this advertising (that's what it is) DOES work. You get great leads, and you're likely to close some business. I have refused, from day one of forming my new company, to participate, even though boot strapping this company was not easy.



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from Jill 1669 Days ago #
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With that kind of money to be had with these shady kind of pay for awards sites, no wonder our boy Charles was interested in getting a piece of it.

Kinda makes ya want to get into this biz model as it's obviously very lucrative. There are similar scams run in other industries as well.




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from MikeRamsey 1669 Days ago #
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I figured I would share my experience with TopSEO's as I am finding the information coming in very interesting. I am relatively new to the search crowd as a whole, but have been very involved with the local search crowd. I take part in that small community on a very regular basis, and now I am getting to know many more people since I have started writing a mobile and local column for Search Engine Journal. So, following the industry thoughts on "competitions" and "verifications" is something I am personally seeing for the first time over the past month.

I came into contact with TopSEO's through a few companies that I respected when I saw the badges on their site.  I started to look into the topseo's website and saw a lot of other names that I recognized and thought it would be interesting to submit my company for rankings for local search as I felt that I could hold my own against the companies on the list.

I didn't have a membership (and still don't) but on submitting I found out that there was a price you had to pay to be considered for each month you would like to be part of the competition. The price covered the cost of the research that went in to ranking companies (which made sence as I didn't imagine that they would spend time doing this for free). I did think the price was steep but if it was any less I would have probably been leery as thinking it wasn't a very legitimate service.

So, I submitted and was contacted by Jeev who I believe is one of the owners. I had some concerns but he had good answers and after our conversation I told him that I would sign up.  As part of that process, they didn't ask for a huge list of clients or anything, they wanted 3 clients that they could talk to as they didn't feel size of clientele or company should matter in the work you are providing (which I agreed with as a small company).

I gave them the list and also filled out information about my company services, vision, and goals. TopSEO's did everything that was promised as far as looking into the clients and conducting the research that I was expecting them to.

I ended up ranked 2nd (where I have remained) as of this past September and have felt very good about it as I do feel my local services have been good for my clients, and I really do try as hard as I can to provide the best service possible. As far as leads from the site go, I have had a few that have came as a direct result of being listed. I don't know if for me personally, it has justified the cost of the monthly competition. But until this point I really looked at the badge as an award to let SMB owners (who seriously do get the bulk of the trash SEO offers) and other companies know that I have done good work, as I think people are always leery of examples on your own website. It was just part of getting my company name out their the same way that i try to do with twitter, search engine journal, other local search blogs, and everything else.

After I was in the competition I was even contacted by their sister company Visibility Mag. who ran a feature on my small company for no cost, no gimmick, they just stated that they liked what I was doing and thought it was worth mentioning.

I am not saying that I have even lost respect for TopSEO's, but I am going to be very interested to see what all information comes out from everyone's study. Either way though, I do see two sides to the sword. I am young in the industry (but that doesn't make me no good at my work), and I currently put 14 to 15 hours a day into building a reputation in local search and the general search industry as well.

In local search, SMB's don't know where to go for good information. Very few make it to David Mihm's local search ranking factors, Getlisted.org, or a blog like Mike Blumenthal's. I was doing work in local a long time before I even started to get to know these guys. How is a mom and pop shop going to find them or even know what to look for (let alone what local search is)? I do see the work that a few are doing like Getlisted University a great step in the right direction for training, but it is a slow process and misses a vast majority who are searching for companies online.

On the flip side, I do see that if how much you pay determines your rank agaisnt other companies who are submitting to Topseos is the only reason you have a badge, it isn't real, and the badge isn't worth anything (which I hope doesn't turn out to be the case with the study done on TopSEO's). I do believe in badges as I have seen many of the top with Speaker Badges, contributing badges, Semmy's badges, Adwords Badges, secure checkout badges, and other things that ultimately build trust.

I am hoping that the information I have provided gives a general idea of at least what it was like for me signing up to TopSEO's. The negativity and claims are very new to me and I didn't feel that keeping silent does anyone any good. If any one has any more questions about my experience I am willing to answer anything, and I am interested to hear other businesses experiences who are ranked as well. I think that is about the only way to see transparency and legitimacy what is being done.

I simply ask that you don't charles me for speaking up. That was about the scariest thing I have ever seen. ;)







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from ArnieK 1669 Days ago #
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First thank you to Jill, Mark and Mike for sharing their first-hand experiences. I have been hesitant to jump in here, as I don't want to appear to be disparaging the companies that have paid to be sponsors on TopSEOs.  After all I was very tempted to myself. Fortunately my gut prevailed and we did not spend any of our marketing budget with them.

But I must speak out as I am adamantly opposed to TopSEOs misleading the very people who are trusting their rankings - the potential SEO client.

I had an extremely similar experience to the one Jill Whalen described above.  I have provided the details to Alan B for a story, thus will not go into it here.  Just read Jill's first comment above, insert Arnie and Vertical Measures and it is almost identical.

IMO their methods are very calculated.  Rank a firm, move them down the list and then off the list to get their attention.  If they want back, they must pay.  And it is even worse for the potential clients.  These people are being duped into thinking there is some valuable criteria in place to get ranked.

Seriously, If you look at the scores for the firms ranked in the top 50 for SEOs, you will  see more than half of them have a 79% or lower rating – really? There are only 19 agencies in the whole world who can achieve an 80% score or better?  If our company only had an 80% satisfaction rating with our clients we would be out of business!  This is a joke and a disservice to the businesses searching for reliable SEO firms and counting on these rankings to guide them. They need to drop this rankings part of their website or post clearly on the site that rankings go to the highest bidder!



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from micheledivano 1668 Days ago #
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topseos.com worked for me. I actually spent some time looking around for someone to help me market my website (range of 5-8k/month) on the internet and after searching through different databases, I came across their site.  topseos did take the time to talk to me over the phone and help align me with a company that is assisting me and we are now able to foster in a rough economic environment.  So when it came to researching and having someone hold my hand, I decided to have topseos assist me and their recommendations worked out great in my instance.  Have you tried calling them or is this just another forum where people bash each other so that they seem more credible?



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from pageoneresults 1668 Days ago #
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Aaron Wall has posted a related piece...

TopSEOs.com - A Review of the Top SEOs Paid Rating Service

Apparently Aaron met his wife due to one of the Top Ranked SEO Companies at TOPSEOs ripping her off. I've not seen Aaron do machine gun Tweets and when he saw the article this morning, oh boy, he rattled off a small magazine full. ;)

I remember back in 2006 when one of the currently "top rated SEOs" did work for my wife's website (before she met me). That SEO firm did nothing but outsource overseas irrelevant reciprocal link exchanges and her website *would not rank* for any semi-competitive keywords until *after* the reciprocal links page was removed from her site. After we took down those reciprocal links and built some quality links the site started to rank. We changed the FTP details as well because that guy's services were not only not worth paying for...the reciprocal links were proved to be damaging, and we didn't want him to put them back up. And in spite of not doing any services for months (and certainly no services worth paying for), this person wanted to ensure they got paid for 12 months of service. And they didn't want to let the contract end when it was supposed to either. They were all sales all the time.


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from NickWilsdon 1668 Days ago #
Votes: 5

@micheledivano

Wow, seriously. Can you try any harder not to come off as a staged comment? You'd sound slightly more believable if you:

a) mentioned your site name - I can see why you'd have trouble marketing your website. You seem to naturally get three mentions of 'topseos' in there though, one with the .com extension.

b) existed online (seriously, no results on your name or email?)

c) hadn't just signed up now, just to write that. That's what I call customer loyalty!

d) didn't use a picture of a hot Indian chick as your avatar (hmm wonder what that connection is)

e) didn't have an Indiana IP (same place as the TopSEOs/e-ventures, LLC. office)


I don't think anyone has called them but they have definitely been invited to comment here. If they like, they can even do it under their real names.



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from netmeg 1668 Days ago #
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Obviously I'm in the wrong business.



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from pageoneresults 1668 Days ago #
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I don't think anyone has called them but they have definitely been invited to comment here. If they like, they can even do it under their real names.

I was hoping to see at least someone with authority from the TOPSEOs.com team join us in this discussion. After putting together the bits and pieces of the puzzle, things are slowly coming into focus, still missing a few key pieces. If you look at any of the complaints online about TOPSEOs, there have never been any responses from their side, not one that I can find. They've done a pretty good job of avoiding the discussion.

It's unfortunate that many of the previous complaints fell on deaf ears. I'm hoping this time things will be different. I WILL pursue this until things change in the way SEOs are falsely misleading the SEO consumer with their TOPSEOs badges, rankings, competitions, etc. That's my promise to the SEO Community.



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from pageoneresults 1668 Days ago #
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Paging Mr. James A. Lisi from IncreaseVisibility.com, you seem to dominate the Paid Rankings at TOPSEOs, I have some questions for you.

In performing in depth research on those who have Paid Memberships with TOPSEOs, your Company came up quite a bit. So much so, that it raised all sorts of questions as to potential relationships that may not be known? I'm just guessing at the moment but I do have my suspicions based on that research and a host of comments now coming in via various channels.

The #1 rated SEO company in the world.

Mr. Lisi, can you tell me the voting process that was involved in rating IncreaseVisibility as The #1 rated SEO company in the world? Personally I feel that is false advertising, others may think differently. There are NO #1 rated SEO companies in the world, not a single one. Mr. Lisi, the professionals in this industry do not play by those rules and I'm not sure where TOPSEOs have established the trust and authority to award such honors.

TOPSEOs Membership Statistics

I'll probably have questions for a few of those who have Paid Memberships on TOPSEOs. At the moment, those are the most visible in the process. I've excluded those who are ranked and who have Basic Memberships as they've not yet slipped into the Paid Ranking model yet. They are there for good measure as they say and unfortunately are innocent bystanders in the process, that's just my personal opinion.



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from qwerty 1668 Days ago #
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I was looking at the site of one of the TopSEOs "top SEOs" and based on the badges displayed there it seems there are a couple of SEO ratings services I haven't heard of -- probably because I've never received a spam email from them suggesting I join.

Is anyone familiar with Top Ten Reviews (http://online-marketing-services-review.toptenreviews.com/) or PromotionWorld (http://www.promotionworld.com/showcases/search-engine-optimization.html)?



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from pageoneresults 1668 Days ago #
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Funny you should bring those two up qwerty, both are on the list. PromotionWorld is first, they are another who are acting like TOPSEOs not to mention their badges are being over-extended by their recipients too. Also, PromotionWorld is just recovering from a hack. The site was tagged as malicious by Google for at least a few weeks, I haven't been able to visit until yesterday.

http://twitter.com/promotionworld/status/11297751126

^ I've been slowly reaching out to various resources and am now starting to ask them questions, very similar to how this topic has progressed.

I think 2010 is the year that the SEO Industry bands together to help clean up the space. It has gotten way out of hand. Obviously, or we wouldn't have companies like TOPSEOs, PromotionWorld, etc. feeding off our young.

Back to the topic, I'm amazed that not one person from TOPSEOs has commented. I don't think they realize that the worst thing they can do at this time is remain silent. These topics are not going to be put to rest like previous topics, I can guarantee you that.



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from safcblogger 1668 Days ago #
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Much like a couple of others here i am on one of the lists at topseos but have never followed up any invitation to pay for their services although they do send me a monthly email offering to put up a badge on my site, which i have never done. Those emails end up in my trash folder and i have largely ignored them until recent events and sphinns.

Edward i have just sent something over.



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from AlanBleiweiss 1668 Days ago #
Votes: 3

As a follow-up to this dialogue, and to expound upon Arnie K's comment, I've just published an article providing the details of where I detail Arnie's experience with TOPSEOs that gives more clarity to his complaint.  Check it out...



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from AlanBleiweiss 1668 Days ago #
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LOL  Just read the comment from micheldivano and have to agree with Nick - that was clearly a planted comment - it's the only comment she has on all of Sphinn - a brand new account and it just HAPPENS to be that she's a company that's found TOPSEOs services to be worthwhile - AND she uses the comment to try and discredit this discussion.  Hey Michele - your ulterior motives are showing...



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from JVRudnick 1668 Days ago #
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about 2 years ago, I contacted a Canadian firm then listed in the top 20 to see if they could 'vet' their membership with topseos....their answer was not surprising in that they said it was "just paid advertising" and that the topseo firm had not even bothered to call all of their references (seems that one of same was a brother who owned the firm that was to be called!)...so, after that and some thought, I figured I would be better off NOT advertising with this kind of paid listing model...course, your own mmv....:-|Jim



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from urbanwebkat 1667 Days ago #
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As in in-house Internet Marketing Manager, I get the "fun" of filtering out SPAM emails from various internet marketing providers that contact the upper management in my company. A few months ago, I was contacted by an SEO company that claimed to be the Best in Search for 2009 as ranked by TopSEOs. Because of their award, I was asked to take a closer look at the unsolicited email.

Needless to say, I wasn't very impressed by the company's offerings. The company offers a 'one-size fits all' packaging model that just turned my stomach. They sent me a PDF outlaying their competitive advantage. In it, they outlined a "Strategic Inbound Linking (Our Network)" where they basically take a link network that they own of "highly rated blogs, websites, and social bookmark profiles" and point it to your site to give you a jump in the rankings. Scary!!!

Luckily, I have enough knowledge to figure out that this SEO provider wasn't worth hiring; however, if I was less educated, I might have fallen for it. It would have been in part due to their TopSEOs award.



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from DamianBest 1667 Days ago #
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Hey, in this internet marketing world, if you can claim it you can be it. Just as long as you are the first thing people see. I've lost count of the times I've read: TOP rated this or that. And their authority is 90 percent of the time totally made up. And no, I don't think that just because you have been in niche for a while you can just say: that is the best and not the other, and thus put yourself in a position of authority simply by elevating whoever you want. I just ignore any such hype.



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from Alysson 1667 Days ago #
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Judgmental finger wagging at TopSEOs aside, the real victims here are consumers.  Consumers put a measurable level of trust in the TopSEOs seal of approval - and virtual seals of approval in general.  There is a false sense of security that the existence of such a badge on a website actually speaks to a vendor's ability and efficiency.  How many consumers do you suspect actually investigate a supposed consumer advocacy or industry watchdog company?  I'd venture to say an incredibly tiny percentage, if any at all.

The real crime here isn't just TopSEOs making embarrassing amounts of money from their pay-to-play business model, but that some of those responsible for causing consumer distrust of the SEO industry as a whole are paying for a badge designed to prove to consumers that they're NOT one of the companies to be suspicious of.  The irony is staggering.  And consumers pay the price - both literally and figuratively.



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from pageoneresults 1667 Days ago #
Votes: 2

Did you know that TOPSEOs now have a published magazine called Visibility Magazine? http://VisibilityMagazine.com/

With articles from contributors such as Omniture, Facebook and Compete.com, our subscription base has grown exponentially over the past two years, and continues to grow. To date, we have over 30,000 subscribers, with more being added each day. Company CEOs, owners, founders and Chief Marketing Officers represent most of our subscriber base, with Sales Managers, Customer Service Executives, SEM Managers and others representing the remainder.

They even offer an SEO Buyer's Guide. They've set themselves up as the Independent Authority on Search Vendors and all of us have been sitting here just letting it happen.

What a coincidence? The magazine shares part of the name of the #1 rated SEO company in the world. Ya, I know, it's just a coincidence. :)



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from trainsem 1665 Days ago #
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I have just added my perspective as an unwitting awardee at http://www.netmagellan.com/why-i-dont-display-my-numerous-topseos-awards-811.html. I am a bit late to this news so I don't have new insights other than that even a free high ranking did not get me any paying customers.



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from choosyal 1664 Days ago #
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Hi, I've found the above valuable reading.I am due to go to court in 11 days after being ripped off by one of their 'no1' companies. One of the [completely irrelevant] pieces of evidence that they have submitted to the court is a screen shot of their 'no1' ranking!Incidentally, they have been 'no1' for over a year - yet are nothing more than 'basic members'??? yet seem to enjoy other benefits of membership (including a link from the home page). Mmm... I think there are potentially a few more people paying than their membership information suggests.



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from pageoneresults 1664 Days ago #
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Best Attorneys Online! - BestAttorneysOnline.com - Rigorous evaluation process.

You're probably wondering why I'm spamming the Latest Comments with Best Attorneys Online references? Here's a little reading for your Sunday morning. There are a few attorneys who have concerns similar to those we have for the SEO Industry.

TOPSEOs.com and BestAttorneysOnline.com - Independent Authorities?

In addition to the above document, I've also taken the TOPSEOS Media Kit and have provided a line by line review with comments and questions for Jeev Trika and/or other TOPSEOs executives.

Consideration for Rankings - TOPSEOs Media Kit for 2010



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from Jill 1663 Days ago #
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Interesting reading. While I appreciate you asking these important questions to TopSEOs, I do hope that you've tried to contact them by email or phone to get answers rather than just calling them out on public forums and your website. I think it would lend more credibility to what you're trying to do.


That said, I'm surprised they tried to go into the attorney market where there are such strict laws on advertising. That just doesn't seem very smart.



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from Jill 1662 Days ago #
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ROFL...I just got email spam from a "company" and I use that term lightly:

Hi Jill,


To Whom It May Concern,


If you are looking for a company to build backlinks for you, please try us once. We are India's number one link building company rating given by Topseos.in [link removed]


Please do let me know your requirements and expectations in terms of Links. We assure you that we will provide you best services.


Looking forward to your reply.


Regards,




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from choosyal 1658 Days ago #
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New business idea, please don't rip it off:

Planning to start a new site called 'TopIndependentAuthoritySites.com' - 'The Independent Authority on Independent Authority Sites'! (Joking of course)

I have, since my last post seen the 'Official Member' badge on the offending 'Number 1' rated SEO company's website. So there are more (at least 1 more) companies paying than it appears.



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