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A post answering the question "Where did all the traffic go?". A few based on a collection of sites that have benefited greatly from the latest Google Mayday algorithm update.
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from theGypsy 1637 Days ago #
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Kind of funny, the gang at the Dojo have been going over and over this and very few have actually seen any losses. Either steady or increases - do we call this the 'crap hat SEO' update? Only affecting certain tactics? who knows... but we're with U on this one Dave.



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from DaveDavis 1637 Days ago #
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And that's my cue to join ;)

I'm absolutely astonished at some of the wild "theories" over on the WMW thread and what's even more astonishing is that people that *should* know better are entertaining them i.e, "you might be on to something there". The problem is that the pages that used to rank for long tail queries simply because they were on an authratative domain are now being outranked by more relevant pages on less authoratative domains with more links! It's pretty simple.

My favorite on is "Google is certainly broken, the quetion now is, how long will it take them to fix it? I'd imagine there's quite a panic at MV". Sheesh!



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from theGypsy 1636 Days ago #
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lol - I tell ya Dave, as part of the due diligence for the thread I went through a couple of the WMW threads and it was all over the place (including my specialty, phrase based IR). I did also note that there weren't more than a dozen or so members in total discussing it. Does this once more mean that only a given percentage got hit? Those using similar tactics? Hard to say.

As far as calling anything page level or site level I am not entirely certain. If we take Matt's video for context he does mention 'site' not pages and 'authority' as well. For what that's worth.

At the end of the day, solid SEO tactics seem to be the WIN here. Considering we couldn't find a member that was hit.... must be doing something right over there... muah ha ha ha ha...

I look forward to kicking back and talking more shop with ye in the near future. We've a fairly mighty collection of search geeks - one more just makes us stronger! woo hoo!



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from DaveDavis 1636 Days ago #
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Hi Dave,

I actually went back through the previously continued from threads and there were a few more than a dozen. I was under the impression that there were a lot more and in fact, was expecting a bit of a backlash. Some of the "well known" posters over there known as "gurus" in the SEO field were giving out some very strange advice and entertaining all sorts of crazy theories.

Let's assume it's a zero sum game for the sake of argument, judging by what I saw, I thought there would be more because on the flip side, not everyone gained traffic. In fact, I've seen quote a few thin affiliate sites losing traffic, which although expected, they always seem to shout loudest.


Regarding Matt's video, I'd never take anything at face value. From my experience and close friendship with some Googlers, I've learned that the smartest thing to do is read between the lines. This is especially true with AdWords. The cries of outrage on WMW shared an uncanny resemblance to what I see on the official Google AdWords help forum every day. Over time, you get a "feel" for what Google are trying their best to say without words directly and over time, it works.


You said "At the end of the day, solid SEO tactics seem to be the WIN here". I couldn't agree more. This isn't big. It shouldn't have been given a name even (unlike Florida for example).


Was only talking to our latest hire about you yesterday and how I STILL have patent documents beside my bed that I have not gotten through or am re-reading. She said you're very like Bill Slawski ;)



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from theGypsy 1636 Days ago #
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HA... if I had the time I'd actually count the unqiue posters (actually giving more than one liners) over the two threads would be under 20 - and yes, some troubling theories. I have to wonder as well if there was really enough of a change to name it. If we take the '300-400' changes per year mantra, then there's going to be some happening today...and tomorrow.... and the next day.

In the same boat with Bill? Certainly a pleasure. I know a lot of folks that blame me for having reading piled high...ooops... sorry. I've often joked with Bill about us being the 'Odd Couple' in that he's a wonderfully intelligent and gentle person. Me? Crawled out of the dockside pubs. We do share a passion for IR. Over the years I've met more and more IR/Engineer/Programmer types which has only fueled my love. Hint - patents are history, the real gold is in research being done today (universities, SIGIR, AIRweb). It is those concepts that will be the search engine of tomorrow. Future Proof SEO!



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from DaveDavis 1636 Days ago #
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Enough of a change to name it? I addressed this issue exactly in the comments of the post. Great minds :)


And yes, I've met Bill once, an absolute gent. He doesn't post enough but that's understandable considering the obvious effort he (and you) make with crafting your posts.


And future proofing SEO? IMHO, that should be built in from the start :)



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from wwwmedia 1631 Days ago #
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I like the way google search keeps changing like this and it does keep me alert - ! Thank to Google for that.



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