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Somehow I missed this one last week. Are we all spammers in some way, just like all SEOs are sometimes looked on as being Blackhat?
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from SamFreedom 284 days ago #
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How true... it just remains to be seen whether you want to be a white hat spammer or a black hat spammer. ;-)

from Jill 284 days ago #
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There's always a few in every crowd who give the group a bad name (be it marketers or SEOs).

from qwerty 284 days ago #
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"Social News and Community Sites Dislike Marketers"
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"There's a reason top users of communities and news sites think all marketers are spammers."
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"Everyone on a social site is a marketer."

Doesn't that mean that everyone on a social site is a spammer? That either means that there's no reason other than spamming to go to a social site (and therefore reading anything posted there is completely superfluous), or that the playing field is leveled -- we can call everyone a spammer, and then perhaps differentiate between the spammers who post valuable information and the spammers who don't.

from JamesDunn 284 days ago #
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Does contributing to a community only to better market your own sites really declassify you as spam? If it does, it could now be seen as being manipulative, which is worse.

from blogrush 283 days ago #
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"Does contributing to a community only to better market your own sites really declassify you as spam?"

First off, I'm just the messenger!  And yes, if you go to Newsvine and try to contribute anything leading back to yourself, they consider you a spammer.  And it doesn't matter how much you over deliver.  They hate marketers, period.

"Doesn't that mean that everyone on a social site is a spammer?"

I didn't mean for that line of reasoning to be drawn.  The point, in context, is that these "purists" on social sites are marketers of something.  It might not be a physical product or blog, but everyone has a commodity to sell at a social site.

I stated this to point out that their motives aren't pure and are actually hypocritical.  If you are selling me on the fact that you are the big dog in a particular social site, you are marketing.  Your profile and your "street cred" (and often enormous ego) are the commodities being traded.

I wouldn't go so far as to actually call anyone marketing something on a social site a spammer at all.  Remember, I stole the title from Seth Godin's "All Marketers are Liars."  He certainly doesn't mean that to be translated literally.

from SamFreedom 283 days ago #
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qwerty, thats what i meant, choose... white hat spammer or black hat spammer. ;-)


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