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Desphinn from ogletree 1322 Days ago #
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This article has no substance. Her ten things are all very short and general. This ads no value to anything. I hope this is the type of article that no longer shows up when voting is gone. This is proof that the voting system is broke. Nobody would vote on this as a useful article unless they know this person and voted as a favor. How can there be 27 sphinns and no comments?

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from cosmiccarl 1322 Days ago #
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This article deserves a spin. Thanks ann. I love the old spin. It is so sad it is going away.



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Desphinn from milosevic 1322 Days ago #
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I agree 100% with ogletree, I signed up an account on here just to be able to comment about it. I normally just lurk here. This article has blatantly got 32 sphinns here through sympathy/favours rather than merit. "Oh, here's a new starter at some company, let's be nice to them by giving them a sphinn!" shouldn't be a reason for giving sphinns. This site should be about quality and interesting articles, not personal endorsements and backslapping clubs. I can't help thinking that there are probably a dozen articles very similar to this one written every day that would usually be ignored.

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from Jill 1322 Days ago #
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I hope this is the type of article that no longer shows up when voting is gone.


I was about to say that it is indeed one that would not go hot when the editors are in charge, but I see one of our editors did sphinn it. So I guess not.





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from dailymoolah 1322 Days ago #
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@Ogletree and @Milosevic - The article's written by a relative new comer to the industry as a reflective post on her SEO career, and what she's learnt to date.

It's not a how-to type article, nor an industry study, and any judgement on whether it has substance is purely subjective. Ogletree, if you have a careful look at the majority of sphinn articles that go 'hot', the ratio of comments on sphinn vs on the blog article that receives the traffic is quite dismal. I suppose that's because people have a better chance to engage with the author of the post on their own blog, rather than on sphinn.

Jill, based on your comment I suppose this is the exact problem the new Sphinn will have. Each editor has their own subjective opinion what content is 'good' and hence content that the community at large may have accepted will be unseen.



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from Jill 1322 Days ago #
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Jill, based on your comment I suppose this is the exact problem the new Sphinn will have. Each editor has their own subjective opinion what content is 'good' and hence content that the community at large may have accepted will be unseen.

Actually, it's what will be the good thing about the community. Since we editors all have different tastes and opinions on what's good or not, you'll have much more variety. Your tastes and mine may be similar, but other people's tastes may lean towards Todd's or Matt's or Debra's, or whomever.



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from dailymoolah 1322 Days ago #
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I sure hope so Jill. My concern is that one's content will have to catch the right editor, on the right day, when they're not busy, and in the mood to find and promote what their subjective opinion of 'good content' would be. I suppose time will tell whether the new model will be a better overall experience for the folks running Sphinn and and the community that uses Sphinn.



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from dannysullivan 1322 Days ago #
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@dailymoolah, that's how things work now, anyway. something might catch on with whatever tiny group of people decides to be active and push a particular story on Sphinn -- or not. And if it's the "or not," then it doesn't go out.

I've seen these types of stories that have gone nowhere. But with the voting system, we're forced to be all suspicious about it. Hmm. Why is it doing well. Is it really that great? Is it just a bunch of her friends supporting her? Is it that Ann's got friends? Or is it really good?

We don't want to be suspicious of every story like this, to second guess if Sphinn's just being used for not. Lose the voting, and at least the editors don't have to do all this second guessing. Visitors might, of course, second guess the editors. There's no winning, but I'd rather have a system where editors aren't forced to be hostile to each piece of content.

I thought the most interesting bit was not having a straight answer for what you do for a living. Made me smile. I guess things haven't changed :)




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from seobro 1322 Days ago #
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dailymoolah, I agree. When you allow voting strange things happen. A rock star once told me that he never knows which song will become a hit. Often songs he likes go nowhere and the one everyone requests is the one he hates - more power to the users.



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from dailymoolah 1322 Days ago #
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@Danny - Like other's in your original 'pulling the plug' on voting thread, I would have supported a decision to discount votes or give them less weight if there's an algorithm in place to detect an artificial attempt to get to the front page. I've personally had articles that were great that didn't go anywhere on Sphinn and others that got 70+ sphinns and were a 6/10 compared to my other work, in my books.

I do agree with you that it's a definite positive for the editors to not question the content being submitted, and that removing voting will achieve that objective. It's still far from ideal, but it is a means to an end.

The article was by one of our new hires, but after a couple of years in this industry, I can still say that most people have a hard time 'getting what we do'.





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from Doc2626 1321 Days ago #
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I'll reserve my opinion on whether this story deserves a sphinn under the new standards, as I'm going to have to wait & see how that works out. Under the old standard, I might not have given it a sphinn, although I certainly wouldn't consider it a worthless piece. As many have pointed out, subjectivity rules our opinions on such things.

David and milosevic, I think de-sphinning a piece that isn't obviously tripe (which I don't feel this is), may be a little dangerous, in the long run. That sort of reaction has undoubtedly caused some people to hesitate to share things here. I have to wonder how much weight that might have carried in making the decision to remove voting.

@Danny, while I don't necessarily agree with your decision, I have to remember to tell myself that it's YOUR decision, and that I'm certainly not privy to all the factors that led you to it. For now, I just figure it is what it is, and I'll continue to use Sphinn until such time as I feel it's not productive for me to do so. Who knows... it may end up being a positive change.



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from jogreen68 1319 Days ago #
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I thinkg it is a shame the user will be interacting less with sphinn, the lack of ability to place your stamp on an article could well ruin the use experience. Other possible answers include a down voting button or limit votes per user so that they don't go voting crazy and vote for only those that really matter.



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