Sphinn - SEO Rip-Off & Scams

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Sphinn It!

Posted By: voasi 278 days ago
Topic Type: News Story (Jump to http://www.seoripoff.com)
Category: Search Marketing

Kinda like RipOffreport, but for the search engine marketing industry. If you have any clients that are pissed at the last SEO company they were with or you are a client that is pissed, you can voice yourself there.

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from seofactor 278 days ago #

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After my question on the subject, I get the feeling that this idea can be a double-edged sword. As an SEO, do I want to put myself down to become involved in mud-slining? Regardless of right and wrong, it seems that the general concensus is to let it go.

My friend has a saying in this matter. I met him in an interview, and during a colorful reason as to why he was no longer with a business, and his means of leaving said business, someone mentioned that he shouldn't burn bridges. To which he replied:

"Yeah, my dad used to say I shouldn't burn bridges, but then I joined the Marines."
He was asked how that related, and what happened when he joined the Marines. He replied:

"They taught us how to blow the F'ers up!"

He got the job, obviously. So, I'm with you on this one. I hope it gets attention. I will be using a bit more tact than my Marine friend, but at the least point others in that direction.

from seofactor 278 days ago #

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I do have a number of questions on this project though. Is this yours, voasi? I'm wondering about the submission process, and what approval, if any, there would be.

Would it reflect the BBB in giving a chance to the SEO to clear his or her name?

Improper management could push this to a means of smearing competitors contradicting it's usefulness.

from oilman 277 days ago #

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the number one reason SEO fails is that the client doesn't do what the SEO told them to do. Nothing else even comes close as a failure factor. Considering that it's the clients fault the vast majority of the time this seem like a pretty bad idea to me.

from seofactor 277 days ago #

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Yeah. I've consulted a few times, and ended up no longer offering consultation because when directions weren't followed, I was the jerk.

I agree, this service could be extremely useful, but will likely be detremental.

from voasi 275 days ago #

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@ oilman - Are you talking about consulting? Because other then that, I'd say its the SEO companies fault. Sales people hyping up the service they're selling, only to have the SEO do a piss-poor job, because the sales staff over-sold the job. Most of the medium size SEO companies sell SEO, as in, "We'll do everything for you, don't worry about a thinkg". 4-6 months into the campaign and nothing's been done... who's fault is that? Of course, you could throw some of the blame onto the client, as he should've been proactive, but again, its the SEO companies at fault.

from johnandrews 275 days ago #

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There's an example of why I think this is a bad idea. A (valid?) difference of opinion leaves uncertainty, but only one side is idle enough to spend time ranting. So this will be very negatively biased as a rant site, not a valid complaint site.

I agree with Todd that not followng recommendations is by far the root cause of poor performance, but at the same time I recognize complexity in the processes involved in following recommendations.

If a site has poor code from poor coders, but looks okay, and can't accept necessary modifications without breaking, who failed to perform? We all start agreeing to try and work together, but the invisible costs will need to be borne by the development team as they sramble to fix what was broke but looked okay. The SEO advice comes in from outside, and the internal politics deal with the external scrutiny plus the apparent need to perform on the group SEO effort. Over time we try and nicely work something out, but honestly all it does it eat up time and in the end the coder leaves or the SEO back burners the project pending progress.

Then what, one day the manager follows up, kills the project for lack of performance, and goes to that site to rant about wasted SEO money? All this time and nothing got done?

That's just one example... the point is there is much involved and any effort to "blame and shame" is likely to get ugly unfairly (and probably draw plenty of lawsuits).

from voasi 270 days ago #

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@johnandrews - I can see your arguement; that's why in our contracts, we specifically state if URL re-structuring or other coding challenges/additions need to be added for SEO benefits, then we have the full cooperation of IT, programmers or anyone else within their organizatin. We don't want our hands tied and get the same response you just gave - lack of performance.

This site has the option for rebuttals from the SEO company. So its not just one-sided. I see the arguement that if one side is shining, that side is bias towards its own opinion of the contract. Having the discussion open from both parties leaves it open for future potential clients to make a rational decision on choosing that company.

from robinson 163 days ago #

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