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If the site you are redirecting has anything shady going on with it, or if you are a well known SEO, make sure you do not discuss the redirect publicly or register your sites with Google Webmaster Central, otherwise Google might kill the redirect out of their distaste and hatred for the field of SEO.
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from johnandrews 3781 Days ago #
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yes, I am afraid Google has a finger on the "devalue redirects" button these days. This is one of those "finer points of SEO" that it is very, very helpful to know about, but which you would only know if you were there. The remaining question is, what else is effected once Google judges the site to be worthy of discipline?

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from AdamAudette 3781 Days ago #
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Great insights from Aaron as usual. Loved these quotes: "Some search engineers might decide to kill the redirect because they generally think of SEOs as being manipulative scum (even if they are unwilling to admit that publicly)." and "...Google might kill the redirect out of their distaste and hatred for the field of SEO." I have never thought of things being that drastic between the SEO industry and Google, but Aaron is in a position to know as near the inside truth as most any search marketer. Anybody else have input on this?

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from MattC 3781 Days ago #
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"If you are an SEO working on a smaller mom and pop type website and rank better than search engines feel you deserve to they may manually penalize your site." If thats happening, thats just crap.

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from dedmond29 3781 Days ago #
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Would this redirect issue be specific to the leveraging of an acquired domain age/history or any 301 redirect implemented (from 1 domain to another)? I’ve worked with a handful of sites that switched domains for branding reasons, redirecting all information to a new domain, and have never had an issue with loss of rankings/search traffic as a result.

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from vanessafox 3781 Days ago #
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It seems to me that the easiest way to know if a search engine is following a redirect is if the old page is no longer indexed and the new page is... maybe I’m missing something. You can tell if Googlebot is having a technical problem following the redirect by checking out the Not Followed errors in webmaster tools. That’ll tell you the URL and the specific issue (redirects to itself, redirects too many times, etc.) As for the rest, well... if Google didn’t like SEOs, I don’t know why they’d build so many tools for them and sponsor/speak/attend so many conferences for them. :)

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from g1smd 3780 Days ago #
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I think the OP is talking about where people buy old sites with high PR and then install a redirect to transfer that PR to some other site. That is clearly a scheme to manipulate PR. In those cases I really do hope that Google does not transfer the PR.

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from vanessafox 3780 Days ago #
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See, this is why I didn’t work on the spam team. I always assume good intentions. :)

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from dedmond29 3780 Days ago #
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I would assume that that would be the issue that Google would want to address - the key component to the post being in relation to "shady", and I sincerely appreciate the feedback/comments.

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from seobook 3779 Days ago #
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>>I think the the OP is talking about where people buy sites with high PR and then install a redirect to transfer that PR to some other site. That is clearly a scheme to manipulate PR. In those cases I really do hope that Google does not transfer the PR. What if a few years ago you bought an old domain with a few hundred links, spent years developing it, kept it on topic, created over 1,000 pages of unique content, and built over 10,000 additional inbound links. Would it then still be justified for Google to wipe your slate clean, killing over $100,000 worth of public relations work you did to build up your site simply because you decided to rebrand your domain name? >>As for the rest, well... if Google didn’t like SEOs, I don’t know why they’d build so many tools for them and sponsor/speak/attend so many conferences for them. :) Framing is an issue that is never really talked about much in school. It is so they can dominate the conversation and control the language. Dominating public opinion allows you to control a market. See John Andrews’s post about a market for lemons http://www.johnon.com/293/seo-consulting-2.html And the tools help them spy on SEOs too. Lucky for me that I own WhiteHatSeo.com and BlackHatSeo.com and can use those however I see fit. Let them play with the language, but its nice to have a roadblock :)

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from g1smd 3779 Days ago #
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*** ... because you decided to rebrand your domain name? *** If you are rebranding your own name, then no, I would not expect that. There is nothing "shady" in that scenario.

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