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Aaron Wall stops into make a guest appearance at SEL.... Some simple but usefull truths about naming conventions.

SNIP - Everything you do has a chance to provide a clean or dirty signal of relevancy to search engines and searchers.

While a date in the URL may provide a signal of relevancy to some searchers looking for archived information, many people who are explicitly looking for old information will likely put a date in their search query, which will match page text even if the date is not in the URL. Other searchers have a good possibility of rediscovering the information they read in the past with the help of search personalization algorithms. But most queries are not for old stuff. And that makes me believe that using the date in the URL causes more harm than good.
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from dannysullivan 267 days ago #
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Ironically, we use dates in our URLs at SEL. The reason is that I found they were an excellent way to produce what I call rebuild safe URLs.

from MelissaF 267 days ago #
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Danny, I would love to see a tutorial on how to remove dates in URLs with wordpress without messing everything up. I would have to screw up my PR and/or my indexed pages.

from g1smd 267 days ago #
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I much prefer to see a date in a URL.  Very often I do need to know how old the information that I am looking at is.


from planetc1 267 days ago #
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I agree with @g1smd, I find myself viewing the urls of many posts to determine the age of the content.

from dannysullivan 267 days ago #
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Well, I'm not a big WordPress person, but maybe others can help. If you're using page titles, that sounds tough. You'd need to build a list of all the old URLs and 301 redirect them to the new ones. But you should be able to generate them out of WordPress easily enough.

from g1smd 267 days ago #
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This question came up in one of the forums I visit a few days ago.  You could write all the redirects into the .htaccess file, and you would have to maintain that file on a regular basis.  

You're much better off having all the data in a database and using that to generate the redirect headers. Most of what you need is already stored within WordPress itself.

from Eavesy 267 days ago #
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Hmmm, might have to get my ones re-wrote, updating wordpress URLs is a piece of cake, go to your WP admin panel, click on options, click on permalinks, select - custom specify below and then place the following in the box:

/%postname%/

the URLs will automatically be re-written. The old ones get 301'd.

from CurtMonash 267 days ago #
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If something I wrote is old, I want my readers to know that.   If something I wrote became inaccurate over time, it preserves my credibility to show that it's been quite a while since I said it.

CAM

from AndyBeard 267 days ago #
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I haven't actually experimented with it, but Wordpress is meant to sort out the redirects on your behalf now, though I haven't tested this at all, and if this changes server load.


There are also plenty of plugins which can deal with redirects without touching htaccess if you need to change slugs

from Eavesy 267 days ago #
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Yeah, for my blog, it just sorts it all for me, if I want to change the name, not a problem, it is very sweet. I changed my mind about what I wanted to call this submission:

http://sphinn.com/story/21150

So I just went to edit post, changed the title and changed postslug on the right hand side, as you can see the redirect works perfectly.

from CurtMonash 267 days ago #
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OK. We can manually change post slugs and get redirects, as per the experiences mentioned here or the official guidance in http://codex.wordpress.org/Version_2.3  But can we also change URL STRUCTURES?  Eavesy said so in his first comment, but I haven't seen it otherwise confirmed.

CAM

from JohnWeb 267 days ago #
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To change the structure, here's a plugin that accomplishes just that, http://www.deanlee.cn/wordpress/permalinks-migration-plugin/

from CurtMonash 267 days ago #
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Thanks.  That's 50% of what I was looking for!!

I wish it also worked for category pages, but Joost de Valk and I seem to be the two people on the planet who think that having category pages rank is a GOOD thing.

CAM

from g1smd 266 days ago #
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Category pages are fine to rank...   just watch out for any Duplicate Content issues.

Wordpress is very much improved in those matters, in the most recent version.


from iBrian 265 days ago #
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It's an interest point to raise, but a problem is that if you are running any kind of news content, dates are a good indicator of freshness and usefulness of the content. There's no point removing date URLs on news, only to increase your traffic - and bounce rate - by tricking users into finding old news.

However, it is a very good pointer for informational/help/guide structured posts, as these have a much longer shelf-life, and date indicators can dinimish the perceived worth of a page unnecessarily.

2c.

from crazycat 262 days ago #
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Good information. And it's true.


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