Published: Jan 20, 2008 - 01:45 am
Story Found By: SlightlyShadySEO 1586 Days ago
Category: Social Media
And yet he calls SEOs slimy.
I dont normally give into flamebait, and dont normally like to call people out on such things, but I made an exception.
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If someone wants to call SEOs slimy, while I disagree, I cant necessarilly get up-in-arms about it.My problem is largely that someone from the Make Money Online niche is doing it.Those guys are dirty as they come.
Well, this conversation on DP on how to make $10K/day has been one of my favorite Shoe posts.That post tells people how to convince others to pay for a dating service using fake profiles, basically products that dont exist, which is actually false advertising and a crime!Needless to say, this little flap pales by comparison IMO.
I respect him as far as MMO writers go. I respect his ability to make money and to market. I do not respect his niche.Its a cloudy line, Ill admit. I have very mixed feelings about shoemoney and his blog.However, having written that line, I feel like a pre-teen girl, so I will get a little less specific. Heh.Respect is an odd thing for me, as Im [obviously] not the most ethical SEO on the planet. I can even on some level respect people who do bad things. Or perhaps, respect their ability to do it?As I said, quite cloudy in my head. Go with what you think I was saying in the entry, and youre probably right.
SSS, you are correct when you say that the "make money online" niche is dip-shit and some one from that niche cannot be talking about the "majority of SEOs being slimy".But, facts are facts - Im from the eastern part of the world where you have the dumbest people who do SEO and also the most unethical firms you would have ever seen.Id say any one would talk about "SEO firms being crap" once they saw what majority of the firms did.Heck, I get 35 emails a day saying "Hi, im not a bot - exchange links with me"Peace.
lol@article
dude your such a flip-floper... u like me... you dont like me... you dont flame but your making this 1 time exception.Great attempt at linkbait yourself ;)
Not a dull moment in the SEOsphere.
I think i get what shady is saying. I also dont have a problem what Shoe does. Au contraire, he is making the dough and has all the respect for it. But in the same way I am sure he does not want to be tarred as being "just another affiliate marketing slime", because he is not, he should beware of tarring the "95% of SEO industry".Another point: anyone can put up a wordpress site and call himself an SEO service and promise submissions to 10 trillion search engines. Does that mean that 95% of SEOs are scumbags ? If the answer is yes, I am opening a medical site, offering a cure for AIDS, cancer and Ebola. Maybe Ill succeed in ruining them doctors reputation.In other words - Shoe, you are a great affiliate marketer and money maker. What you said about SEO industry is crap. There is no flip-flopping about that. There are a lot of great people that the moment they venture outside of their comfort zone, start talking shite. James Watson, the DNA double helix structure discoverer is one example.
Bah, boring.. Every industry has its "95%".. Used Cars, New Cars, Jewelry (a topic I know well), SEO, Web Developers, Restaurants, etc etc etc.. They ALL have their 95% suck mentality and they all think that they are in the 5% when they say it.. But I bet they also all have at least one customer or associate thanks they are in the 95%.. I just read them for the humor and move on.. Too much effort is wasted on arguing the whole Im better thing..
@shoemoney: I can like you, and think its bullshit you go after SEOs given your niche. But I can see through it for the marketing attempt it is. Seriously, given how much pull you have in different areas, did you have to flamebait to get your radio show some decent notice?Regards,SlightlyShadySEO
Its a cheap shot (cheap as in inexpensive... virtually no risk to making the claim). The resulting "controversy" is the payoff... even if there isnt one, a single complaint can be called a controversy and thus satisfy his need for content for his radio show. Oh... and lets see an SEO step up to the plate and "represent SEOs" (to get a resume item "appearance on Shoemoney radio show on SEO". Really... yawn.Big News: Shoemoney is an opportunist. By the way, didnt Shoemoney start out calling Markus Frind (pletyoffish) a liar and riding that "sh*tstorm" of controversy? Dont feed the trolls haha.
Dont feed the trolls haha.You gotta love Sphinn. Bunch of wicked smart, cant pull the wool over our eyes marketers who would surely spot inflame-a-bait when they see it and run like hell in the opposite direction so as not to encourage the practice. Right? Wrong.Even though several commenters spotted the bait - look how many Sphinns have been cast. Then again, did anyone actually read the article. Hell, I bet 95% of the Sphinners didnt get past the SSS avatar before they Sphunn! Oh sh%t, did I say 95%? I better upgrade my server to handle the traffic! ;) Please dont write an article about me saying that! (Thats called the takeaway!) ;)P.S. I prey every night that God will turn me into the sleazy, slimy, opportunistic internet marketer that Shoemoney is. Maybe thats it. Maybe Shady has Shoenis envy?! ;)P.P.S. SSS - didnt you recently agree that there are about 1 Billion Scraper/Spammer/SEO whatever you wanna call em types over in India? Lets see, 1 Billion @ 95% slimy - that would leave room for 5 million reputable SEOs. Yup, Id say 95% is a generous figure!
Sorry Sean but there are many of us who choose every day not to be "...the sleazy, slimy, opportunistic internet marketer..." It really is a conscious choice, often requiring concious effort given theworld we live in and the cost of living in it.
It was a joke John. Ligthen up.