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Posted By:
Gamermk
212 days ago
Topic Type: News Story (Jump to http://www.shoemoney.com)
Category: Networking
19 Comments
Posted By:
Gamermk
212 days ago
Topic Type: News Story (Jump to http://www.shoemoney.com)
Category: Networking
19 Comments
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EVERYONE STOP SPHINNING SHOEMONEY STORIES HE IS BANNED HERE AT SPHINN
Sigh... mike your attempt at reverse psychology is unnecessary and blatant gaming of the Latest Comments section. Shoe's posts will gain their Sphinns if they deserve them.
Eh content is content. If it frontpages, fine. I don't think his information should be banned, even if he is.
@mike - What are you talking about? Shoemoney has not been banned at Sphinn.
@gamermk - I'm with you (and shoemoney). I don't get it. I think it's related to 'need to know' and 'need to share' by people. Or rampant narcissism. Not sure which ;-)
Ya I've editted my initial comment b/c after 5 seconds of research it's pretty clear that mikelowery is a Shoe fanboy since the only 5 stories he's ever submitted are from shoemoney.com
@Michelle:
If I ever read the headline "Twitter = Rampant Narcissism" I may just have to Sphinn it without even reading the post ;)
As simple as twitter is, I think it has two problems. Its too pointless and too cumbersome.
Its too pointless in that most people don't have enough important stuff going on that it makes them worth following. I love my friends, but I don't care what they are doing right now. I certainly don't want to know everything that some guy half way around the world is doing. I think an exception to this might be a site that uses twitter to announce special promos. Think w00t but instead of launching the special at the same time everyday, it launches randomly and is announced via twitter. I don't know why you would feel the need to run it through twitter (since you could build your own little setup) but I could understand that.
I think twitter is too cumbersome in that it takes too much effort for what it is. There are some things that make it easier (I have used it in conjunction with JOTT).
Overall I think its kind of gimmicky. I also think that some bloggers hype things up just to try and build another channel to market through. I can't blame them for that, but I think that may be the case a lot of the time.
Do "get" twitter. Just do it. But if you must have it explained...
Sometimes it's just fun to say "hey world" this is what I'm doing.
Sometimes it's fun to read what others are doing.
From a marketing perspective, it's like a mini blog. Saying why Twitter can be like saying "Why blog." If you're writing something interesting, short or long, doesn't matter. But if you build followers, those can send you traffic.
If i had enough of an audience I probably would, but since I am not there (yet) i kind of don't see it as necessary from the marketing aspect.
I agree that it is fun to let the world knwo that I am there (someone here defined it as keeping my blip on the social network alive) but judging from my Facebook status update frequency, I don't have that much to share...
so no twitting for me... for the time being...
@ Gamerk: "it's pretty clear that mikelowery is a Shoe fanboy"
I'm not so sure that is the full deal... http://sphinn.com/story/23877#c27541
So far it's been an efficient way to keep up on events, who's made a digg/sphinn/mixx submit, daily happenings in others lives, and what someone is having for dinner.
Most important is knowing where Danny is at in his CLEAR program referalls. Is it up to 2020 yet?
Count me in the don't get it camp.
Tamar did explain it a bit on our forum recently and pointed out a good article on Problogger about it, which did help me understand how people can use it for research. But it seems to me you'd have to have it constantly up and running and watching it all day to gain insights.
Yeah, seeing what your friends are up to is cool, but I use Facebook for that. And I do enjoy the status updates there. To me, Twitter just seems like that one aspect of FB. (Although, Tamar did explain to me that it's not, I just haven't had the time to try to use it for anything but that!)
It's like having a reasonably busy street just outside your window where some of your friends will pass from time to time. They don't bug you and you don't bug them. But occasionally you'll pop your head out of the window and say Hi. You'll also occasionally see that someone is doing something interesting. There's no stress nor pressure. Do as much or as little interactions as you want.
As Danny said, it has some aspects of a very, very minimal blog. However just tweat when you feel you'd like to.
I've been asked to get on board with Twitter but for the life of me, I can't understand why anything I have to say would be THAT important and need to be seen/known right away. If someone wants me, I'm at my blog, or my forums, or I'm working and an email away. When I'm not there, does anyone really care that I'm doing mom stuff, sleeping or I dunno, maybe not online for once?
@Burgo: Damn! I forgot that again! Good catch.
Twitter is ongoing communication. Guilt-free IM. No-one has to answer.
Where Facebook is like a bulletin board at work where we hang notes, Twitter is alive. As a work-from-home person, I like that.
In any given hour I see links to good stories, catch the watercooler talk in several industries, feel the pulse of what's hot or not.
Like Danny said, "why Twittwer" is like "why blogging". That's not a judgement; some have a use for it, some don't :)
No offence to Jeremy, but the reason he doesn't get Twitter is because he's never used Twitter.
He's made 8 posts over 7 months and follows 9 people - https://twitter.com/shoemoney
Until you set yourself up with a client app and follow a few people you like, it doesn't make any sense. It's like watching mini-blogs from people, you get links, commentary or sometimes nonsense. There's loads written on how to use it, read my post here for some tips (http://tinyurl.com/288byl)
Try it Jeremy, then see if you like it or hate it?
all these people who dont get it have you actually tried using it. eg. following people, replying to people, posting things, direct messaging people, submitting cool links relevant to what you like to do career and hobby wise??
you will catch on once you start using it I bet. Althought its not for everyone, information overload can set in quick if you do not know how to manage it.
It's so much more then a "hey I am eating dinner" sort of device that it intially was composed as being. It can be a solution to learn things from, connect, or simply be alerted to information that you absolutly would never see otherwise. It will broaden your scope of knoledge I can gaurantee you if you follow the right people.
@ bwelford that was a phenomally well put analogy.
You really need to use it, to understand it's full potential. Build out your network and pay attention. Twitter can be a fantastic resource if used and implemented properly by businesses.
NY Times, SEL, Techmeme and ESPN feed out their latest news stories (this is PUSH technology, not PULL like and RSS reader), I know what's out there as it appears on the site and click on what I want to read - not sort through the stuff I don't.
Companies like Woot put out their daily specials - I bought my Roomba because of Woot's tweet on twitter.
Politicians are using it to announce rallies, or special events on their sites or blogs (Ron Paul/ Barack Obama) - before Thompson dropped out he used to to announce he was doing live blogging.
Sure there's a lot of small banter that goes back and forth, but there's also a lot of information you can pick up! I found out about a bunch of tech stuff going on in the philly area because of Twitter (podcamp, indy hall, etc.)
It's like any other "medium" unless you invest a little time into understanding it - you just won't get it. Totally fine if you can't invest the time or it's not your thing, but don't diss it before you can really say you've invested time into it,
Wow this submission has been slow... anyways, I'm reposting the comments I left on Shoe's post:
I wouldn’t have known about this post if not for Twitter. I also wouldn’t have known about Danny coming on your show. I’ve subscribed to the feed, but frankly too many feeds result in noise over-kill and I turn to Twitter as a source for instant industry gratification.
Through Twitter I get immediate responses to questions like… does anyone have a LinkedIn contact? Has anyone worked with Red Dot? Why does Oilman keep shouting boobies?
The responses took less than 2 mins!! For anyone with ADD or just a lot on their plate, that kind of instant response is invaluable.
Of course there’s a ton of noise, but it’s easy enough to ignore the topics that don’t pertain to you. Keep your followers down and you won’t be bombarded with obnoxious chit-chat. Keep those you follow down to a trusted resources and you’re golden.
Bottom line - Twitter is fun and distracting. When someone has a little self-control it can be a powerful tool.
ps - For anyone that’s saying they tried it and no one followed them… “if you build it they will come” doesn’t apply to business! Get off your butt and make connections with valuable resources and consider that if you have nothing to offer them why should they give a crap about your lonely little Twitter profile?
For those that say Twitter is only useful for social media gaming, you’re right, but that’s a small piece of the puzzle. Ahh! Get out of your self-inflated bubble and realize traditional marketing can and does still apply.