Published: Feb 13, 2008 - 02:15 pm
Story Found By: aimClear 1461 Days ago
Category: SEM
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SES New York alert: Deshpinn! Desphinn! Stop gang voting before it happens :0
The hell are you talking about?
10 desphinns can take down this SES New York sphinn - before it goes hot. Unless for every 2 desphinns an additional sphinn counters the double-desphinn. (evil green monkey warned sphinners about "gang voting" - ask EGM, i never heard of it before)
@kevinheisler: Do you get free crack at Incisive?
SSS, Kevins referring to the discusson that erupted over SES London hitting Sphinn here, Search Engine Strategies London 2008. Thats when Matt McGowan, the marketing VP that Lee is interviewing in this article, submitted what was effectively the home page of the SES London web site. I noted that by rights, we should have pulled the article, since the home page of a web site isnt a news story. That developed into a little "oh, so Sphinn hates SES" drama that Kevins making a joke about.Kevin, as I said in that thread, I have no problem with actual articles about events run by anyone that are on internet marketing showing up here. This is a great example. Lees done a fine job interviewing Matt and talking about what people can expect in the programming for SES NY. Theres no need to detour off the content of the article.Since I did the series since it, well, began, I find the idea that there are now "strategy sessions" somewhat bemusing. I know my programming. I always had strategy sessions with tactical sessions. "Vertical Creep" was one example of that -- talking about the coming of blending search back in August 2005 at SES, before it ever hit. Did the same thing with local and other things, you name it.The real change seems to be that starting in Chicago (rather than it being new for SES NY), strategy panels are given an actual name "Orion Panels." So thats smart marketing if youre trying to help people understand theres a strategic element and they werent getting it before.I cant tell if people werent getting that before or not. The only real thing Ive evern seen was when Did-Its Dave Pasternack went on a "call it search engine tactics" riff last year in DM News here.This confusion is so deep and widespread that the title of the industrys most important trade show, SES (Search Engine Strategies), is 180 degree out of phase with what the show actually is: a show about Search Tactics, not about Search Strategy. As anyone whos attended SES knows, the vast majority of information conveyed by panelists and pundits is tactical, not strategic.He goes on, and DM News never bothered to publish my response to him, explaining that SES indeed had both strategy and tactics. But never the less, SES as a series seems to be very sensitive to that column. If I were still with the series, believe me, Id go into depth and itemize the strategic panels that were always a part of it. But Im doing SMX now, and I assume that its easier for SES to have a sales point of making strategy appear like its a new change.In terms of Q&A, I dont recall getting feedback saying more Q&A time was needed. I think thats because we always provided tons. Sessions typically went 75 minutes or 90 minutes if there were multiple speakers, and moderators always kept speakers to a tight schedule.Still, cant you get more out of the Q&A time? What I have heard is that people would like to see better questions come up in the time period. Thats why for SMX West, we have this dual moderator system were running, where a knowledge expert takes in questions and puts up the best ones to the audience for a vote. Theres more about it described here.In my years doing SES, what I heard repeatedly more than anything else was the programming was great but folks wanted a better experience: printed confernence handbooks, better lunches. So thats what weve been doing for SMX.
Sphinn id 28000 - wow! BTW, I cant see the "Who Sphunn" or "DeSphunn" info. Anyone else?OK, I admit Im ignoring some of the thread above. Its curious to say the least.As for submitting content to Sphinn or any other social news site, the guidelines are pretty clear wherever you go (Sphinn, Digg, Reddit, Propeller, etc): original and timely news. Ive made it pretty well known, I hope all the conferences in play do well. I think theres more than enough audience to go around - thats just my opinion.
@Lee Press F5 and do a hard refresh, you have the old JavaScript cached
One word: wow...