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Published: Aug 23, 2007 - 06:08 am
Story Found By: promoinnovations 1740 Days ago
Category: Sphinn Zone
I am totally against SPAM. I am in total agreement that SPAM posts should be deleted. So please, don’t get me wrong there.
However, NOWHERE do the rules of Sphinn say only ELITE bloggers need apply. If that were the case only 3% of the Blogger community would be aloud to post.
I don’t want to feel terrorized for experimentation. I want to learn and be able to share ideas. Yes, even the advice that sounds too basic for the bullies.
I want to remain friendly with everybody in the Sphinn community. So, this is not a bashing on anybody. But, I feel like somebody has to be the "George McFly" and stand up to "Biff"
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I’m glad somebody posted this. I’m a little ’stranged out’ by the way some people are saying what should and should’nt be on here. If you don’t like it then dont Sphinn it :)
Word! I’m in agreeance as well, the content will sort itself out. We don’t need artificial monitoring by the School Yard bullies, telling everyone whta they should and shouldn’t post, or rather said , trying to forcibly mold the shape that this community takes.
WTF is an elite blogger? I still fail to understand the A/B/C categorizing and you confuse me with a totally new term, doh! Seriously, I second ViperChill’s "if you don’t like it then don’t sphinn it".
I don’t think in this case its about elite/non elite but an experienced & jaded versus fresh and niave dichotomy... ;) Could be worse could be jaded & niave!
What weren’t you allowed to post? This is a dark side of Sphinn I wasn’t aware of. If it becomes a little club for would-be-supremos I think I’ll be checking out...
Hear hear!
I’m not sure I understand what the problem is. Very very few post get moderated out around here.
Graywolf is right. In-fact, there are several posts (in a row) on "repairing a DVD that lost video" in What’s New right now that haven’t been moderated. Nobody has Sphinned them, and that’s how this all works - remember?
I am not talking about management. I think they are great here. I was referring to previous discussion posts who are "calling out" people that are making it to the front page and then insulting them. I will not list names.
Tanner, I actually personally pulled several of those posts from What’s New abot 30 mins before they were posted. If something is completely off topic, moderators should and do pull them. Might not be instant, especially with so many of us at a conference right now, but we are doing it. As I’ve posted, in the future, we’ll also look to let members wipe out off-topic spam, too. In terms of so-so content, the voting is the main way that gets filtered out. If it’s so-so, it might make What’s New more noisy, but it doesn’t make it to the home page, by and large. Not everyone will agree on what makes it to the home page, of course -- and for sites like this, I’d agree that the linkbaity style of content can seem to dominate -- and some people just don’t like that. But I’d also say it’s far from quick linkbait that makes it up.
Danny, thank you for commenting. What do you mean by linkbaiting. I understand the term, but, to me, link baiting means you have a great headline with great info in it. How can that be bad?
The Back to The Future reference is a stretch but I get what you are saying.
>Sphinn is a social Web 2.0 bloggers playground I am not really sure that is correctly defined here. Articles may be by bloggers, but it’s sure not "about blogging per se" if that’s what you mean (maybe you didn’t mean that). In that case, maybe many stories that are submitted which have less to do with marketing, seo, and the like, but more to do with "how to be a consistent blogger" should indeed be considered off topic (some would say SPAM). I may be misreading what you actually meant though, since you did not provide examples in your post, sorry.
I didn’t see it this time either, but there are plenty of people who react to impressions more than content so I’m not surprised to hear it happens. Frequent posts means frequent mug shots up there and some people react to that. Ignore them? That’s key to many online arenas..every post is not for you, and some personalities will be abrasive to you, so skip what doesn’t appeal and move on. I persoanlly make a point of voting up good comments, and voting down the ones that were poorly placed. Sometimes it’s less than perfect, when I feel I need to vote down to balance an upvote, but don’t mean to imply the comment was inappropriate. Respond to influence / ignore control.
How does one be "a little offended"? Isn’t it either offensive or not? I mean "Now that’s offensive, but it’s no big deal"...?
@promoinnovations, link baiting isn’t bad if you do have a great headline with great content. But sometimes, the headlines over promise for what the content fails to deliver. For me, the bigger issue is that I honestly think I’ll be ill if I have to read another 16 Ways WordPress Can Make Use Of Matt Cutts’s 15 White Hat SEO Tips. My eyes kind of roll at that point, since I’ve seen thse types of stories over and over again. In part, I tend to think the Sphinn community will start to reinforce a "we’ve seen it before" attitude. That if it’s yet again another list of tips already seen and not that fresh, it won’t get sphunn up. For me, my best advice would be to look before the obvious in what you write and submit. I’d rather see 6 WordPress Tips You Really Don’t Know and be surprised if they actually are fresh tips than yet another rundown on stuff everyone has already done.
Once again, thank you Danny for replying. I think I understand a little more what you mean. I have only known about this site for a few weeks, so no posts have really annoyed me yet. (Except for the obvious spam). But, being as I am new, I was alarmed at the discussion post that was on the FRONT page of your site, tearing apart one of the ladies posts that was on the front page. I don’t want to feel "Called Out" if I accidentally put up something somebody doesn’t like. That can hurt my reputation. I don’t mind being called out in my out thread, but, not in a separate post that ends up making it to the front page. I think if you want to build a community, the posters should feel safe enough to post. With that said, I really enjoy this site and the community and I can’t wait to see it grow. Peace!
@ promoinnovations "I think if you want to build a community, the posters should feel safe enough to post." I wouldn’t worry about if I were you...there will always be some folks sitting on the sidelines who feel like taking cheap shots at others is the best way to "make a name" for themselves or get attention. Post things that you found interesting & be honest in your comments - people will respect you for that.
This is healthy :) Stop! Do not moderate!!! I’m serious - this is healthy - I actually got more information about sphinn and probably more reason to actually sphinn from this one post alone. -Thanks
‘This is healthy ’ It really is. Experience aside, I am 5-10 years behind the ’top bloggers’ but do have a lot to say and it is literally up to you, the reader, to tell me and our fellow Sphinners what you want to hear by Sphinning it, or not. We won’t be offended :).
As a social platform, there are bound to be some degree of social politics involved. We’re social animals, that define ourselves into groups and non-groups after all. Often in an environment like this misunderstandings can occur - inadvertently did that with Eric Ward. But if you see anything that looks like ulgy social banter, and the mods see fit to keep it, then you can either get involved, or simply not. The latter is probably the best tactic. :) 2c. :)
What bugs me is that sometimes a blog may have something valuable in it, but you have to REALLY read it to see the information. You can’t just scan everything and see the valuable parts. Additionally, there are times that people see beyond what is right infront of your face and see things that others may not. I think that many of these blogs are ignored at times and not given a chance. There are a lot of Sphinn users that work in a large variety of industries. One person may see something that is valuable to them and they may want to share it with others in similar industries. I think there could be more categories to submit topics under which could eliminate some of these issues. I do see Promo’s point very clearly. I think that the "Elite" he is talking about never will because they are who there are. They get Sphunn so fast it will make you head Sphinn! ;-) Just like other social media sites there are networks that support one another. There are many times that I see a lot of highly Sphunn topics that have nothing to offer me, but they are valuable to someone out there. I don’t slam it if it doesn’t apply to me, but I see some of the things Promo brought up. Just my thoughts....
well said Melissa
Thanks promo! :-)