Published: Sep 12, 2007 - 06:36 am
Story Found By: fantomaster 1613 Days ago
Category: Domaining
13 Comments
13 Comments
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Considering the problems we saw raised on Threadwatch about GoDaddy, Im not sure how many BHs will be on it. And that bloody awful upsell process they run everyone through. Thank god for Moniker. :)
Not so sure about that, Brian: I know how many domains *we* hold with them, and were not the only ones. (Of course, Im not talking hosting here.) They can actually be pretty good (and competitively priced) in dealing with largish accounts (which ours probably qualifies for). As for their upsell marathons and their interface -- yeah, no one in his right mind can actually enjoy those, heh.
Why would they need to buy Godaddy to gain access to that information? Couldnt they just lease access to the data? It may be worthwhile to read the Godaddy privacy policy - (I havent and probably wont bother) but anyone concerned about this maybe should.
AFAIK Godaddy doesnt lease that data to anyone - havent looked it up in their TOS but theyre quite clear about it in describing their domains by proxy function, as I recall. Of course youre right - if they did, this part of the equation wouldnt cut the mustard. But of course the article doesnt claim that this is their only reason for possibly buying GD - thats actually covered in the other resources pointed out. Id disagree that this is merely a "black hat" issue, however: Basically, it would impact just about anyone registering domains at GD and their subsidiaries. Personally, Id feel damn uncomfortable seeing my data wander off straight into the Plex.
If youre looking for Registrar level protection then I would always choose Tucows. They arent the cheapest but they are very careful with privacy and compliance. Besides that, as the Registrar for domains such as Microsoft.com, their client base would have a thing or two to say about a Google takeover ;)
Good points and we do have reason to be concerned. Google could knock out the value of any domain registered with GoDaddy immediately. Even if youre hiding your tracks with solution #1 (straw men) a switchover will nix any value it previously had. Ive always been using multiple competing registrars just to be safe, but GoDaddy still has a large number of mine. Let us know how the Myrebel service goes if you go that route. It may be something to consider.
Hi Fantomaster, For some reason, I am unable to access your website. This has always been the case (months and months) whether I click-through with the google reader, or from here in Sphinn, or direct type your URL, I get a "Cannot display the web page" as if there was no Internet connection. Im in Montreal, it happens from home, from work, and all of my friends that live here. All with different ISPs too. Tried FF and IE. We simply cannot access your site. I would love to read your blog, as the Google reader snippets always show interesting stuff, but for some reason, I can never get to the actual content. Does this happen to anyone else out there? Are you blocking IPs from Canada? :( Please let me know, because I REALLY want to read your stuff! And maybe many readers are experiencing the same problem...? Thanks! Oggy
@Oggy: Block IPs from Canada? Blimey, no - many of our best clients are from Canada. Montreal, too. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out - will check into it immediately. Maybe you might want to contact me via e-mail giving me an IP for which its not working, that would speed up the analysis: fantomaster AT fantomaster DOT com And thanks for pointing it out.
yeah Ive had the same trouble accessing fantomaster from Montreal - Ill pass my home IP along to Oggy so he can include it in his email.
The perils lie in the credit card transaction data. Not only is the "owner" data revealed, but the "sponsor" is revealed for many projects that would otherwise enjoy confidentiality. My very first blog post to Threadwatch in 2005 included the fictitious headline "Google buys GoDaddy, Gains access to WHOIS Proxy data" see http://www.threadwatch.org/node/3670
"AFAIK Godaddy doesnt lease that data to anyone - havent looked it up in their TOS but theyre quite clear about it in describing their domains by proxy function, as I recall." afaik, ive lost several domains at godaddy while advancing through all of their shopping cart screens. by the time i tried to purchased someone took the domain i was buying. someone sees the data, and takes your names if they want.
Dang, this is scary stuff. :-(
I doubt that Google can afford to purchase GoDaddy.