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The Sphinn Exposé - My Story About Social Media Networking

Went Hot: July 21, 2008 - 7:10 pm
Posted By: kevgibbo 84 days ago
Topic Type: News Story (Jump to http://www.seoconsultants.com)
Category: Sphinn Zone

A very detailed and in-depth look at Sphinn from Edward Lewis of seoconsultants.com

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from andymurd 84 days ago #

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When pageoneresults' experiments were at their peak last week, I thought a lot of his comments were combative and abrasive and wasn't surprised when he got banned.

However, he's distilled them into a very well-written piece of work that every Sphinn user should read and I hope the mods take note of his findings. What's the answer though, nofollow the upcoming listings?

I think he should be allowed back too, but that's not up to me.

from baiduyou 84 days ago #

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This badly needs some sort of executive summary...

Having said that, Sphinn needs to face up to the spam issue. Repeatedly asking people to hit the 'Report as Spam' button certainly hasn't made a bit of difference.

from g1smd 84 days ago #

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The results from touchgraph.com for Sphinn are very damning.

The Sphinn brand is tainted by some of the worst of the worst on the web.

from andrewsho 84 days ago # - show/hide this comment

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Edward, some interesting ideas in there but bud you need an editor. You could have said what you needed to say in 1-2 paragraphs without sounding like a ginsu knife salesman on acid. Cool browser though.

from Skitzzo 84 days ago # - show/hide this comment

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@baiduyou, what do you mean "face up to the spam issue"? Any social site is going to be spammed. It's that simple. I don't see Edward ranting and raving about all the spam Digg gets... to somehow blame Sphinn for the fact that it's targeted by spammers is just retarded.

This is nothing more than a pathetic plea for attention and I for one don't care to spend anymore time reading his self righteous rantings.

from g1smd 84 days ago #

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You obviously didn't see, or failed to understand, the attack mechanism; one that means that the spam lives on, under at least six different URLs, in Google's index for weeks after the spam is seemingly removed from this site. Sphinn is being gamed and spammed in multiple different ways, and has been for months.

from Skitzzo 84 days ago #

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Who cares if spam remains after it's "seemingly removed from this site"?

If it's "seemingly removed" then it's no longer affecting the users experience on the site and doesn't matter. Sure Sphinn might want to take a look at the issue for their own purposes (rankings etc) but that's only if they a) notice the site being harmed by it or b) even care.

from g1smd 84 days ago #

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You obviously don't care. That much is clear.

But there are wider issues.

from LtDraper 84 days ago # - show/hide this comment

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The concept of "Don't submit your stuff to Sphinn because then you'll be in a bad neighborhood" is pretty weak. If that were true, blackhats could merely submit their competition to 100s of compromised Pligg sites.

from mike 83 days ago #

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"The results from touchgraph.com for Sphinn are very damning."

Damning in what way? Is sphinn going to hell?

This site belongs to someone. They have the right to do whatever. Why doesn't Edward start his own sphinn if it matters so much to him? Reddit's code is free (as in beer AND speech), so any excuse is moot.

from evilgreenmonkey 83 days ago #

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"Reddit's code is free (as in beer AND speech)"

Cool, I didn't know that! I'll pass it onto Michelle as another possible platform choice for Sphinn v2. :)

from Janeth 82 days ago #

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Reddit's code is free (as in beer AND speech)

Where are you getting the free beer from?

In this country we have to buy our beer.

from Jill 82 days ago #

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In this country we have to buy our beer.

In my office, it comes out of the sink's tap. (Who needs water when you can have beer? :)

from IncrediBILL 81 days ago #

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Who needs water when you can have beer?

OK, now Jill's talking sense!

from oldschool 80 days ago #

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I didn't read the whole thing, but it started out by saying "I am new to this". That said, it can be taken as a lesson that everyone needs to learn how Social Networking communities work and understand the rules & ettiquette before jumping in and doing so agressively. It happens on other social networks all the time.

As far a personality styles, abrasiveness, and conflist. Again, it is often accepted by a known member of an online community - and perhaps shouldn't be - but when someone starts out like that, it just doesn't go over well. It's also a great way to discredit your business.

from Sebastian 77 days ago #

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I appreciate Edward's efforts, and I've enjoyed reading his pamphlet. Please reinstate his Sphinn acct.

As for the bad neighborhood warning, I'm quite sure that Google doesn't credit all links inserted by various pligg link building tools. Pligg leaves enough footprints to enable an algorithmic check of an (edited!) paginated new list against URIs (respecively URI variations) crawled once or twice during a short time window. Probably disabling the ability to pass link juice is cheaper than removing such URIs from the search index. Just because Google lists an URI (in search results as well as in similar URI results) that doesn't mean that those URIs count for anything. However, the visibility of spham in Sphinn's SERPs annoys me. Dear Google, even if deletes are more expensive than updates (in related tables), please consider removing identified spham asap. Thanks.