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Newsflash: BlogHer Supports Women
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Published: Jul 22, 2008 - 07:44 am
Story Found By: DavidWallace 1762 Days ago
Category: SEM
Lisa Barone writes, "Michael Gray gave Google the day off and decided to pick on women instead, or more specifically, BlogHer. Michael claims that the BlogHer conference is guilty of sexual discrimination. He’s offended that there weren’t any male speakers included on the BlogHer agenda and says males who did attend were treated as second class citizens. Cry me a river, Michael. How do you know how men were treated? You didn’t attend."
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from Skitzzo 1762 Days ago #
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I’m all for someone presenting the other side of the argument, but please be consistent in your argument.For example, you say:Unless Michael knows of a man that was turned away recently, his rant is just that, a baseless rant that attempts to damage BlogHer.But then claim that women have been descriminated against by stating:Why is BlogHer needed? Because every time the gender card is played in regards to why women never speak at conferences, the organizers swear up and down that "they tried". That "they contacted women" and "they didn’t respond".If you’re going to require Michael to produce proof of a male who was turned away recently, the least you should do is provide an example of a woman who was turned away because of her gender.You imply that conferences don’t actually try to contact women speakers but you have no more proof than Michael does.

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from Halfdeck 1761 Days ago #
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"But at the same time, when an opportunity arose for me to spend two days surrounded by people who do what I do but who also have breasts, I jumped at it."Hey, that’ doesn’t sound so bad."It’s sad that instead of celebrating the success of BlogHer 2008, we’re being forced to defend its right to exist."I’ll look forward to blog posts covering what I missed at BlogHer 2008 - it sounds like a fun gig.

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from SEOhack 1761 Days ago #
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good to see a response to Mr. Gray’s post.  when i read his post, i thought he was complaining about a non-issue.  but it looks like a lot of people take this seriously!

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from storyspinner 1761 Days ago #
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First off -- >a desphinn because this article is a "smackdown on Michael Gray" .... ummmm please, Lisa and Michael are friends. claiming this being a smackdown shows no knowledge of the people involved or the situation. friends can disagree at times,and that’s what this is, besides, MG even sphunn this post, so I hardly think this was a PERSONAL attack at all.Having been at BlogHer08, and have witnessing many men there, including KeyRelevance’s own videographer, Beau, they were NOT treated as 2nd class citizens, in fact if anything, they probably got a lot of "good attention", being in the minority.  I will also have to note that although not on the schedule, two of the sessions I were in had men as speakers. These two sessions were started by the woman who headed up the session, but they willingly passed the "podium" so to speak to the men that were invited to speak in these sessions.Great job Lisa!

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from graywolf 1761 Days ago #
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So if blogher is having men as speakers are they hiding it and not listing them on the speaker list. One i might believe was a alst minute substitution, two becomes a lot less believeable.I don’t think I or Lisa ever claimed to not be friends. However just because she is my friend doesn’t mean that I expect her to agree with everything that comes out of my mouth or winds up on my blog. She’s a smart and articulate person with a mind of her own if she’s disagrees with thats fine. I actually think your real friends are the one who will call you out when they feel you make a mistake.if you’re making a vieled acusation that this was all a big set up or pre-aganged, I’ll shoot that down right out of the bat as not being true. In fact my post criticizing blogher was written last week, and I twittered that last week (if twitter wasnt all fail whale I’d link to it).Feel free to desphinn as you see fit, no problem with it really.

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from 0thelisa 1761 Days ago #
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Thanks for the comment, Li.  Definitely puts a different spin on things. I didn’t want to touch on how ridiculous Kimberly’s comment was, but yes, I think it’s pretty common knowledge that Michael and I are buddies. Insinuating that this was a cheap "smackdown" post is completely off base. Flame wars and bullying may be a hobby for some in this industry, but it’s certainly not one of mine.

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from SpostareDuro 1761 Days ago #
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NEWSFLASH: Not everyone that visits Sphinn knows you people. I DO. I realize that some of you may feel that everyone on the planet is aware of your names, your employment, your goings-ons..but in real life, that’s just not true. It LOOKS like a smackdown. You couldn’t provoke me to say one more thing in this thread. haha..Not gonna happen. I know what you are doing, which is to rub my nose in the mud, but sometimes when people are so full of themselves, it becomes apparent that they are blinded by their own ’speak’ to the point of exposing themselves..I don’t even need to help. Some of you are terrific at doing it all alone.

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from SpostareDuro 1406 Days ago #
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As said about my reviews in the recent past, I’ll have to say that this sounds like a Michale smackdown (personal attack on Michael)

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