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ChrisLang
43 days ago
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Category: Google
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Posted By:
ChrisLang
43 days ago
Topic Type: News Story (Jump to http://www.keywebdata.com)
Category: Google
14 Comments
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#2 Google can’t wait to take the Digg mafia out and kick their ass.
I don't think Google is too worried about SEO blogs not being able to get links or traffic from Digg. In fact, with more access under the hood, we could see the link juice that Digg passes change dramatically. Remember the Google warning last January about the slapdown coming for people that only promote their own stuff on social networks?
#4 Digg has massive traffic and the data centers already in place to handle it.
Have you seen how much Digg has been down lately? Their pages take forever to load. Perhaps Google will get rid of the js errors Digg generates on their ads. Don't get me started on the unreliability of the Digg API. My guess is that stuff all moves into the Google cloud.
I wonder if all the Digg accounts will have to be rebord as google accounts? And are we going to get those annoying captchas everywhere?
#6 The new Microsoft deal to display advertising on Digg will go bye bye.
That's an interesting one. The way for Google to attack MS is to buy up the major content providers that provide them ad revenue. $200M is a pretty cheap price to shake people's confidence in the MS ad network.
I'm sorry but what are you talking about here?
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The only quality indicator that Google uses Digg for is a link, just like every other link on the web. Sure links from Digg (especially from the home page) are more powerful than some others, but if Google really had a problem with that, they'd simply devalue outbound links on Digg, not buy them.
@ LtDraper, the JS errors lately come from the Digg reccomendation engine. We did not see this stuff before, until the last few weeks when that option went beta.
The slow page loads come from advertising, not Digg coding or server resources. Watch how the page loads, all the Digg coding is alread on the page, it is the advertising that slows Digg down. Replace that flash crap with AdSense and it would be fine.
@Google can’t wait to take the Digg mafia out and kick their ass....
How can you even consider that Google would begin to offer social access to Google users in results and allow the Digg mafia (AKA bitch brigade), to alter results and get sites kicked out?
If you don't think Google has a clean up plan in place for Digg then you have not thought the thing thru very well. Let's say Martha Stewart pisses of somebody that has a Digg bury brigade of friends. As the current Digg situation stands Martha Stewart's sites would get the bury button clicked on them till all rankings and postings disappeared.
Then they would start spamming her URLs all over Digg until the domain was banned. It only takes a few days. I have seen this happen and it happened to me only because I wrote an article critical of Digg and their privacy policy. If you think this is not going to happen to you on Digg then you are neive.
promote-my-site.com/, nice URL, into web 2.0 marketing are you? The Digg mafia would go after you in a heatbeat, they hate anything Internet marketing oriented. Email marketing? To Digg, you send spam. Do you consider thefridaytrafficreport.com and Jack Jumphrey to be some crappy SEO site? ? Banned as well.
The fact that you can drop off of a Google property and one that already affects search results is definitely going to be a large concern to Google. Why do you think Digg is only going for $200 when Bebo went for way more? It is the Digg mafia and the domination of the top 100 that makes Digg unacctracitve and that has been documented for years by much more reliable sites than mine.
@Skitzzo, I don't want to insult anyone, but if you do not know that getting a high number of Diggs affects search engine rankings then you need to do some catching up. It's all documented all over the place, just Google it.
@Skitzzo, also Diggs (votes) are not outbound links, they are in site links on Digg, and they are a tags, and as you already pointed out Google values links. All the Diggs point to the Digg post of the parent site and then one outboud link carries all the internal Digg links outbound to the blog post. That is how Google finds link value in Digg. It is even documented in the Blogsearch patent.
Actually it has been said that Google has been working with Digg and a second social bookmarking site for months... I think it was Stumbled that was named.So it makes perfect sense that these two social bookmarking sites would have more value on Google than the others - at least during the time period that Google is working with these sites. Think about it for awhile, you form an 'alliance" with two companies out there for whatever product or service you have -- of course you will place more value on those two companies than anyone else.
@Chris, you're not even addressing my point! The post states that "Digg is highly valued as a blog quality indicator."
The value Digg passes is through a link. Just like every other site on the web. It's not given some sort of magical "ooh this site has been on digg it must rank #1" type status.
And again, if Google had an issue with the way Digg is affecting the rankings they'd simply devalue the links Digg provides. There's no need to buy the site to do that.
The rest of your rant makes it quite clear to me that I need not waste any more of my time debating any point with you because that would probably just mean I'm a part of the vast conspiracy theory against you.
Skitizo, I am not going to waste anymore time debating with you either and I am going to hold my tongue here. Google finds blog posts that get a high number of Diggs to be of value. The number of Diggs are the quality indicator to Google and Google can count these, it is documented.
Jack Humphrey warned me not to waste my time with people like you and I am going to take the advice of a much smarter man than either of us, BYE.
@ChisLang - The Digg mafia got us a long time ago. It's a badge of honor. :}
My point was that once Google is on the inside of Digg they may very well make changes to how things are banned or how juice is passed, but keeping Digg safe for people promoting their own stuff won't be high on their list.
The javascript errors are coming from their advertisers as well, not just the new recommendation engine. As for their data centers, I doubt that's a factor for Google as they enforce their own tools environment on their developers. I agree that all that gets cleaned up if Google takes over. It would be nice to have fast loading adsense instead of these dating service ads.
Digg's lower valuation is a reflection of the bursting of the Web 2.0 bubble, nothing more. It's November 1999, and anyone with a significant Web 2.0 property and any smarts is looking to unload it ASAP.
Let's not forget the other big motivation for Google: having the inside info on Digg will allow them to better target their advertising and their shiny new patents.
@LtDraper, I agree totally with you, but you have to agree that pulling those flash ads will get the load time up. I would have replied sooner by Skitzzo just about put such a negative sphinn on my day that I just about deleted the post rather that ever have to read his comments again.
Skitzzo, why don't you just go over to Digg where you belong? The will love you over there burying everybodys comments. In fact after all the negativity here, I doubt I will partcipate much here in the future.
LtDraper, it was good to share views with you.
@Skitzzo thanks for desphinning me just because you disagree with my post. If I was someone like you I would probably care about your malicious activity. Have a nice day and please don't waste you digg mafina tactics on me, I am not worthy of your time.
Now now, Chris...
Sphinn is a democracy :P Anyone has the right to use their desphinn as they see fit... there's no need to take it personally :)
@Burgo, Too many vindictive digg mafia type tacitcs have come my way from people like this. I just do not need the negativity. Why would I post a blog post that I spent 3 hours writing with how many out going links to support my points? I had to count SIXTEEN outgoing links and this frakin guy is so uninfromed that he does NOT even know that 50 to 100 Diggs will drive you up search results in Google and then buries me over it.
It seems from this guys profile that most of what he spreads is negativity. I would simply like NOT to have to participate in his negative world.
Now look I have just wasted even more of my time having to explain myself to you, someone I respect and would like to discuss topics SEO topics and social media with.
Burgo, I get your point but I hope the next time we cross paths it is on a positive note. Cheers!
You can disagree with me all day but burying a post simply because you disagree is just grade school antics and I will call BS, BS when I see it.