News Source: http://www.sugarrae.com
Published: Aug 05, 2008 - 04:18 pm
Story Found By: martinbowling 1778 Days ago
Category: SEO
This “community” is f**ked and way too wrapped up in its own communal and deluded level of self importance and needs to get a life."
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ok replying to desphinn comments is weird@sugarrae if it gets to the homepage it has more reach and the potential to reach a wider audience so hopefully some people will read it and get it?make sense?
@sugarrae I never intended for this to be a slap in the face, I just thought since this was the audience that the post was intended for that, this is the audience that should see it. that they should get in on the conversation, either here or at your blog. If you truly don’t want to see here I will gladly send to it the mod queue.
@streko the lulz were because this would likely cause alot of heated discussion because people don’t like being called out when they are doing something that others might consider stupid or talentless.
Don’t worry, the stupid and talentless have no idea who they are.
@martinbowling glad you sphunn it. @sugarrae glad you wrote it.
umm... you might want to drop the "f" bomb in the post above so the URL doesn’t get filtered in safe search....
thanks @paisley got it
just returning the favor =)
One excuse is as good as another. Sounds like somebody who did not get Sphinned enough to me is whining about why they don’t like Sphinn. Next, topic please!
"Sounds like somebody who did not get Sphinned enough to me is whining about why they don’t like Sphinn."Nope, guess again.
I am here to get entertained, get informed, and to learn more about Sphinning. This is just a whinner who cannot stand the heat in the kitchen. This topic has been covered several times before.
You’re right JohnHGohde... I am upset that I don’t get Sphunn enough. If you would please remove your head from your ass, you’d see that I am a former Sphinn moderator, a current columnist for Search Engine Land, a former WMW mod, a speaker at SMX, SES and Pubcon. And I only say that to point out how truly ignorant and uninformed your comment was.You’re EXACTLY the type of sheep I am speaking of. You’re the person I’m speaking to. Disagree with my opinion all you want - but have some actual BASIS and FACT to your argument.@graywolf this is why I have no interest to save anyone. Mods, delete if you must.
No need to delete anything Rae, you’ve raised fair points in your post and expressed a personal opinion in the comments.Then again, this going Hot would kinda add to the whole drama Queen saga ;)
This ’community’ lives in a goldfish bowl whilst the majority of the people working in search just get on with their lives: tiny little bits of nothing get blown into World War 3 whilst things that actually matter get ignored because they’re not sexy/don’t mention Plurk/aren’t written by a big name/add as applicable.I was just thinking how nice it had been to stay away for a while, and now a post explaining why I should stay away makes me want to hang around for a bit. Irony eh?
@evilgreenmonkey thus why I didn’t submit it and desphunn it
I think we’ve just officially turned a post railing against SEO drama into even more drama. I’m not going to Sphinn or Desphinn, just for my own sanity, and I can’t claim I 100% agree with Rae’s post (probably 82%), but it’s hard not to get tired of all the BS that’s been going on. I’m going outside now to try and enjoy the summer.
I am here to get entertained, get informed, and to learn more about Sphinning.I do not recall amount of income from SEM as being a requirement for joining. But, I do believe that name calling goes against the rules. So, please get a grip. It is only a Sphinn. Now, please deal with it.I am here to get entertained, get informed, and to learn more about Sphinning.
"You’re right JohnHGohde... I am upset that I don’t get Sphunn enough. If you would please remove your head from your ass, you’d see that I am a former Sphinn moderator, a current columnist for Search Engine Land, a former WMW mod, a speaker at SMX, SES and Pubcon. And I only say that to point out how truly ignorant and uninformed your comment was."Note the above as a world class beat-down.I think that DrPete hit the nail on the head.
and I believe she did it WITHOUT calling you names. It does seem like JohnH deserves a fresh batch of cookies though ;)
wow... this is just WAAAAYYY to much... This is a great example of one of the many reasons why I read SEO Blogs & SEO sites less and less as the days go by...Have SEO Blogs Jumped the Shark?
I love it. I’ve been posting on forums for the last 7 years and was about to say the hell with the forum posting myself. I’ve talked with more SEO’s that don’t have a clue then I care to think about.
Wow.. at first I thought this post on Rae’s blog was typical high quality rant (the literary genre, that is). I had no idea it was food for the this month’s Sphin troll. But then anything that gets Natasha to post is good by me! Sphunn for that reason!
The irony of this article (not the sphinn post) has just kept me laughing all day long.
As much as I agree with you on this rae, i still think (unfortunately) this sort of thing fuels the fire. if people are retarded enough to be immersed in the shitstorm then so be it. as you said, more pie for you nom nom.
while I agree this stuff gets pretty ridiculous, I love to sit back after a solid day’s work and watch the shit sphinn around the fan.
Heheheheh - Rae said F#$@ing teehee teehee. Oh, and Nazis - nbothing specific about Nazis - just... Nazis. Does that mean the discussion is over now thast we have a jeuvenile comment from a post-adolecent child, and a commetn about NAzis? If nbot, well FIRST! OK, I am all out.
ditto @johnandrews
although u didn’t intend for it...these are the type of posts that should make it to sphinn...content that has a point and offers more value than your average "top ten things i made up to get on sphinn" post
That’s what I said!
That’s exactly my point. Anyone who tuned into my web show the other day is likely getting a chuckle. I predicted this outcome from this post to a tee. Even with a desphinn campaign, I couldn’t battle the sheepacity.
So, I’m away from Sphinn for a few months; come back, and all of a sudden it’s eaten itself.Bad times.
I’d like to point out that the vast majority of SEOs don’t post here, and don’t blog at all. It seems the "rockstar" bloggers think that they ARE the industry, when really they spend more time fostering their own reputation than they do actually practicing SEO.are a couple of flamewars on sphinn really that big of a deal? happens in every online community ive ever participated in. par for the course.
but what does sphinn actually achieve? the only time i ever come over here is when i see someone rage-tweet and then come over for a hearty belly laugh and watch the fireworks ;).
I agree with you that Sphinn has been a body of stagnant water for top-X lists and regurgitated information for some time.But I think it’s communities like Sphinn--its popularity and seeming authority--that helps legitimize the concept of SEO for clients and companies that are unfamiliar. It’s good for the beginner, but to try and cull groundbreaking and original practice and theory from it is silly. That is what conferences such as SES and SMX and Pubcon are for; a place for those of us who are tired of all the rehashed dribble, a workshop of sorts, and a platform for ideas that should inspire new practices of our own.
@justfred "while I agree this stuff gets pretty ridiculous, I love to sit back after a solid day’s work and watch the shit sphinn around the fan."@gronk "the only time i ever come over here is when i see someone rage-tweet and then come over for a hearty belly laugh and watch the fireworks ;)."I am here to be entertained, and for the occasional bit of information.
By many standards, I am brand new to the SEO, SEM industry, and i have got to say that everything in this article is exactly what i have been feeling ever since I started trolling the blogs and comments. Seriously, i got into SEO as a career move, but i feel like I have been transported back to High...no....wait, Middle School!
To see this on the Sphinn homepage, to me, is a slap at why I wrote it. I know most who sphunn it meant well though.
** again holding up middle finger to people who missed the point **
i am still trying to figure out what the lulz are about...
Although I appreciate irony, this is really a bit much. ;-)
Because Rae asked. And I really like her style. Great points in that post.
ppl who know about it know about it, just making a point, really a good article
de-sphinn per request of @sugarrae ..................
I meant well sphinning it but WTH I’ll also desphinn it.
as per twitter request - despinning for the first time ;)
desphinning just because being able to sphinn and the desphinn the same post is just weird.
because Rae asked nicely! :) (Damn I have to have 50 characters to desphinn)
Coz Rae asked, but also to see how many desphinns it will take now that the topic has already gone hot...
Just desphinning this post to help Rae prove a point on Sphinn.
I found the candor and passion of the post refreshing...and rather amusing, albeit that "funny" wasn’t the intent. I’m still going to Desphinn it, as requested...
ok.. as requested.. i don’t agree, but i understand
It’s Not Me, It’s You That about sums it up. Listening to all the additional whining. Her position is even less Sphinn worthy.
people should sphinn items that other people wrote. Sphinn your own shiot
okaaay I’ll desphinn. I think it’s funnier when folks end up sphinning it though.
i guess i should have read rae’s tweet before sphinning....
You gotta love being able to sphinn and desphinn at the same time
Desphunn in the spirit of Rae’s intent with this post.
desphinning this baby at rae’s request on twitter. she dont want it seen
Once posts are hot, you can’t desphinn them. But here’s mine.
I am such a sphinn nerd. Guess I will run with the herd
I do not support people for pulling a calacanis. Add some value yourself instead of ranting.
confused on which way I should vote on this issue, change my vote to desphinn
I’ll do whatever the "community" tells me to do and the voices are telling me to desphinn
This post is engaging in the exact same practice it’s railing against.
I couldn’t resist sphinning but will also desphinn per Rae’s request