News Source: http://www.seobook.com
Published: Nov 08, 2008 - 05:29 am
Story Found By: AffanLaghari 1657 Days ago
Category: SEO
26 Comments
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News Source: http://www.seobook.com
Published: Nov 08, 2008 - 05:29 am
Story Found By: AffanLaghari 1657 Days ago
Category: SEO
26 Comments
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Just checked the SERPs.. and yep, it’s there ranked at #10. I don’t even know what to think about that.
I thought Google had a Search Quality department!
For the first time, a spammer does good for a blog, IMO
Don’t you just love the relevancy of the SERP’s nowadays?!
It’s #9 in UK: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Lindsay+Lohan+nude&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I don’t know which worries me more... the fact that it ranks or that you were searching!!
@rhcerff.Ain’t that better than searching for Vanessa Fox Nude! BTW, if you don’t search for xyz nude, xyz viagra cialis, xyz online poker, etc., you will miss many things beyond the nude pics.Sheesh ... some ooglrs are prying in some places.
@yetanotherbenAlso jump to DaveN’s blog for his recent Online Gambling post to see 3 .edu sites ranking for Online Casino (on page 2).Seems like Google has opened so many ends from YouTube ads to White Space, that they aren’t concentrating on their primary business as much as they should be.
SEO vs Soft Porn Titelation - I’m sure there’s some topical relevance in there somewhere..:)Someone has had a bit of fun with this and proved a much witnessed point.It also magnifies the whole flaw in the authority aspect of the G algo in that genuine sites with on topic relevant content that don’t happen to have a mix of the right types of links, can struggle to rank, whereas pages like the above go zooming ahead with little to no effort.Whilst SEOBook should ceretainly rank for what it talks about, it most certainly shouldn’t for this nonsense, who could dispute that?Search engines might suggest that if a site wishes to retain authority then it should take steps to moderate the inputs and content produced by its users, which for some of the larger sites is virtually impossible. It certainly sheds light on the weaknesses of a system that likes to tell people how smart and sophisticated it is.Remember too that the ’content’ on that page is just 3 weeks and a few days old, it contains nothing other than the keyword on the page, the keyword in the title and a few inlinks with the repeated kw.Where is the look at the sites theme? Where is the look at any on page relevance? Where is the evidence of aged inbounds, strength of the linking pages, dilution for lack of kw IBL variance or ...{insert any other number of traditionally expected and accepted ranking theories}? Authority and trust is king, get that and you can rank for almost anything, if it isnt BEBO today, then it’ll be FB or twitter tommorrow. Opportunists will exploit this to the max, you can’t blame site owners either; it’s the algo that puts it there.Ok, off to create an seobook profile..;)
I have to agree with Rob on this one. The side effects of authority being such a huge factor in the alogorithm is huge news and informatio sites ranking for a lot of tenuous search queries. Until a couple of weeks ago a Guardian article entilted "Is it curtains for critics" was ranking top 10 for "curtains" in the UK. Undeniably ranking because of the deserver authority that the Guardian site has built over time, but helpful to have it ranking so high for a query that almost certainly has commercial intent, not really.
@Rob, regarding "It also magnifies the whole flaw in the authority aspect of the G algo in that genuine sites with on topic relevant content that don’t happen to have a mix of the right types of links, can struggle to rank, whereas pages like the above go zooming ahead with little to no effort." - excellent point there Rob. Funny how little domain relevancy played a part in the SERP’s on this occasion.Regarding this pointL: "Remember too that the ’content’ on that page is just 3 weeks and a few days old, it contains nothing other than the keyword on the page, the keyword in the title and a few inlinks with the repeated kw." - I wouldn’t be surpised to see it drop down the SERP’s though over time.@AffanLaghari, cheers for the heads up on that!
I saw a similar discussion on Digg recently and how site considered authority can often get onto the home page with fewer than 100 diggs, whereas obscure websites sometimes miss even with 300+ Authority is a useful part of the algo in any search, but it does need to be properly balanced. Finding that right balance is tricky business.
This may also speak to the same thing Rand pointed out recently with the "seo company" SERP a few weeks ago, i.e., low quality links do indeed seem to still work in Google.
@yetanotherben no idea how long that has been in the serp, but yes, Im sure it’ll slip, perhaps a little faster after this little discuss...or not as the case maybe - knowing how those goog guys like to mess with our heads ;)@jill it isn’t new though is it? Trust and authority trump above all other factors, as @amabaie suggests, it needs a whole lot more balance - how that’s achieved of course isn’t so easy
it’s #11 for me logged in or out
More whining from black hatters, who have been out black hatted? I would say, that is a big YES.Of course, does anybody wonder about the conversion rate? I certainly do NOT. Perhaps, if you SEMs would try to focus more on the bigger picture?
I deleted the spammer’s affiliate links and banned their account almost instantly...I think the same day they put up the profile. I had not deleted the page because I figured simply removing the economic incentive would make them not want to spend effort on it...guess I was wrong on that.They had to know it was going to get outed. Not really sure what they were thinking
@seobookCan it be that they were then trying to see if their type of links can get the page to outrank many competing others, even if the keyword had nothing to do with the theme of the domain.There are lots of sites nowadays which allow you to register and have a separate profile page of your own. And not eveyone will be quick enough to delete their links like you did. And what’s more that this may give them monetary benefit even if the link is nofollowed (like in StumbleUpon or Twitter).Also see this forum entry http://forum.indya.com/member.php?u=125849Seems to be ranking #7 for keyword ’buy viagra’ (http://www.google.com/search?&pws=0&q=buy+viagra). The funny thing is that one of the latest visitors to this forum profile is a LarryPage, another viagra seller! haha
Hold on, I think we’ve lost track of what’s important here - does Aaron have nude pictures of Lindsay Lohan or not?! ;)
Newsflash! SEO works - and SEO’s are complaining about it!
thanks guys, most entertaining post & comments of the day. Come on, you’ve got to smile, it’s up to #8 now on Google.com and .co.uk searching from Spain :-D (#5 if you put it in "")
I see it at #8 as well. I wonder how much traffic it’s getting from that result...
#7 on Google Australia. WOOOT!
I guess I am amazed that this got so much attention.
It’s #3 in Canada!
More whining from black hatters, who have been out black hatted? I would say, that is a big YES.FTW? Any way what would you count as a great conversion rate on that term anyway? aaron - you planning on adding some affiliate links :P ? I am sure theres a quick bucj and a high conversion rate in there...