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The shocking thing about PubCon this year was that a little pink pony took PubCon over all by itself. Kristy Ann Bolsinger, Magical Mistress of the Pony, said PubCon was basically "PonyCon".
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from BrentCsutoras 2196 Days ago #
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Pink Ponies... whatever happened to drink bait?

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from bbcarter 2196 Days ago #
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Zi.ma loves ponies too- they changed their logo because ponies love Zi.ma!

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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AWESOME!  I’ll be interviewing candidates for president of the "I Hate Brian Carter" club next week.In the meantime, review for fairness these front page sphinn posts:<div>Matt McGee’s how to know you’ve spent too much time on seo... http://sphinn.com/story/73181David Harry submitted Matt McGee’s "who is the best looking man in seo" http://sphinn.com/story/50941Zima meme post VERY loosely related to seo only because Martin Bowling does SEO, posted by Brent Payne, this one is MUCH LESS relevant than the pony meme http://sphinn.com/story/80174</div><div>No one desphunn any of those... Matt Cutts supports the pony: http://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/1014352799</div>It doesn’t mean I’ll contribute any less to Sphinn, but clearly some of you like it more boring here than I do.  I’ll make sure humor is only 20-30% of mostly useful posts in the future, I guess.  That may sound smart a$% but seriously, it’s about the only way I can understand what you guys do and don’t want on Sphinn.

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from paisley 2195 Days ago #
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brian carter you <b>are</b> funny... f ’em if they can’t take a joke.. and once they do get the i hate brian carter fan club going let’s send them a letter bomb..

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from dsnyder 2195 Days ago #
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Brian,The Desphinn isnt a vote against you, it simply means they just don’t like the content.When I posted this,http://sphinn.com/story/85354 - The Man’s Man SEO in a Box , I was waiting for a Desphinn, because when you create something that is simply done to make people smile on a platform that is 90% utilized for informational resources you are bound to get people who do not support the content.Again ... the votes are just against the conent. People don’t have to like everything you put out.Is a Desphinn any worse than people just not voting? not by much.

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from BrentCsutoras 2195 Days ago #
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@brian.. get over yourself.. no one cares that you wrote the post. They only care that it is a post about pink ponies and that it has nothing to do with search. END

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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Dana Lookadoo suggests I remind you guys it was posted in the "water cooler" category.  What is that category for, exactly?Brent: when I did the twitterstache post, people said it would have been fine on sphinn if it was about SEO’s with moustaches.  This post concerns a bunch of people in the search industry.  Besides, Sphinn is not just about SEO or search.  Read the tagline in the logo.  "Internet Marketing" which I believe includes social media and email marketing and banner ads etc.  Am I wrong?Again, if this post is wrong, there are a bunch of others you should take down, see above.

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from UtahSEOpro 2195 Days ago #
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lovin the comments. although, guilty of submitting, agree w/most.

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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<div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; background-color: #ffffff">@Brent.  Sphinn isn’t about SEO/search. If it it’s why aren’t you desphinn affiliate sphinn posts? Affiliate isn’t search marketing. ;)  Plus, your a social media guy. Social media isn’t search either!!!!!<div></div><div></div><div>Internet Marketing is just that, MARKETING on the internet. Google isn’t the internet (just in case you missed it). :P</div><div></div><div></div><div>If you guys don’t want ’water cooler’ topics on the front page, then ask Danny to remove that category. But it’s there for a reason. </div><div></div><div></div><div>The reason, I think, a breathe of fresh air. :)  </div><div></div><div></div><div>I’m surprised ’Plurk, You’re a Needy B***’ wasn’t labeled water cooler but it definitely is. Yet it got over 100 sphinn’s (including myself).</div><div></div><div></div><div>I think those that desphunn it because it’s "not internet marketing related" need to just take a chill pill. Stop trying to act like the IM police. If you desphunn it cause you didn’t like the quality or w/e, I got no qualms with you because your entitled to your opinion.</div><div></div><div></div><div>Everyone has their own opinion, I have mine, you have yours. And at the end of the day, I doubt either will change. (I might if I totally misunderstood something)</div><div></div><div></div><div>Worth repeating: If all of the desphinners are like ’okay, this is lame’ then fine. I’m alright with that. But please note, this is a place of IM news, with the ability to talk about non IM news (i.e. water cooler). :) [not trying to fight, just trying to clear some things up]</div></div>

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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So this isn’t on the frontpage anymore- why?

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from TheMadHat 2195 Days ago #
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water cooler isn’t supposed to be able to hit the front page is why....or that’s what a mod told me at one point.<div></div><div>I don’t really see the issue either way.</div>

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from tonyadam 2195 Days ago #
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@Brian - just like Brent said...GET. OVER. YOURSELF.Good day sir.

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from Michelle 2195 Days ago #
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Hi All -  This post was originally submitted into the "SEM Industry" category.  I moved it into the more appropriate category of "Water Cooler" Our editor Rob will do an official post about a few of the changes happening at Sphinn over the next week. One of which is that items in the Water Cooler category are no longer on the front page.  This has been on the list of changes to Sphinn for many months, and has been discussed previously (hiya @TheMadHat), and was implemented today.

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from evilgreenmonkey 2195 Days ago #
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TheMadHat is correct, Water Cooler stories are not meant to be able to make the frontpage.

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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you guys need to work on the fairness thing...  all I can say right now.  This is pretty ridiculous.

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from Skitzzo 2195 Days ago #
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I must be missing something here... how is this post somehow Brian being self absorbed?

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from DrPete 2195 Days ago #
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At the risk of becoming a target, I have to say that I Sphunn Brian’s article up. Yes, it was silly, but it had a strong Pubcon connection, was timely, was funny, and the pony thing has been a hit in some of the SEO community (especially on Twitter). Frankly, I see fluff posts every day on the site that hit the home-page just because of who wrote them. That’s not to say that there isn’t good content on Sphinn - if I didn’t believe there was, I wouldn’t be here and I wouldn’t bother to comment - but the reaction to this piece really seems disproportionate.@Brent - No disrespect to you, but I find comments that end with things like "END" to be really insulting. I basically read it as "I’ve had my say, and my say is all that matters, so the rest of you can shut up now." The rest of us are entitled to our opinions too.

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from BrentCsutoras 2195 Days ago #
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Water Cooler not making it to Front Page was a decision made about 2 months ago. It was because of numerous Happy Birthday posts. This is something that was not decided based on this post. @Joshua.. ... .. and websites are not search and blah blah... If you cannot connect the dots on your own..FYI.. I didn’t desphinn till it hit FP and I think my desphinn was pretty damn funny..

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from dsnyder 2195 Days ago #
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out of all of this came the best Sphinn comment ever...Brent Desphinn comment about hating pink ponies and keeping them away from our industry.Made me smile on a day I didnt think I would smile.

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from paisley 2195 Days ago #
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@skitzzo i didnt get that part either.. except his personal exception to having his funny picture article ABOUT SEO PEOPLE in the SEO Industry @ pubcon getting despinned?are not the people in the picture SEO community members? Is not sphinn supposed to be about the SEO community? or @michelle the "SEM Industry"???or is the whole point of the desphinns to get a water cooler story off the front page and desphunn for that reason only?or is this just another popularity contest gone wrong.. Danny? isn’t this website about the search industry?or am i in the wrong place?

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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@Brent we aren’t talking about websites ;) we are talking about a ’meme’. Which...umm (cough) is Internet Marketing. :D<div></div><div></div><div>I didn’t know the whole decision about Water Cooler ’not allowed on FP 2 months ago’.</div><div></div><div></div><div>Then...the fault lies not on Brian, nor this Meme post, the fault lies on Sphinn moderators. :) For being negligent in putting these motions into effect. They could’ve put a banner on the top saying ’no water cooler on FP’. But w/e.</div><div></div><div></div><div>Also, I do think an apology is in order to Brian, since he was caught up in all this mess. If it wasn’t Brian, it would be someone else and I think that person (in another parallel universe) would deserve an apology due to the lack of speedy-ness on the Sphinn Mod’s actions.</div><div></div>

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from BrentCsutoras 2195 Days ago #
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@paisley Not nearly that complicated. It is just that Water Cooler is not supposed to reach the FP.. Was also not about Brian being self absorbed until he commented that he thought it was personal.@joshua Why does there have to be fault at all.. It is a stupid silly funny post that got moved to Water Cooler. Why is this even conversation worthy.

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from evilgreenmonkey 2195 Days ago #
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@DrPete The action was not a result of this story, as Michelle stated, the matter of Water Coolers hitting the frontpage has been discussed publicly and amongst mods for quite a while. The fluff you decribe should no longer be an issue on the frontpage, funny stories can still be found be visiting the Water Cooler category and a better solution should be implemented in the next major Sphinn release (v2). More information will be provided in the coming days.

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from BrentCsutoras 2195 Days ago #
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However this is pretty interesting - http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10104529-93.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

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from dsnyder 2195 Days ago #
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damn it ... wont be able to FP anymore Manly Man videos!

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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@joshua Why does there have to be fault at all.. It is a stupid silly funny post that got moved to Water Cooler. Why is this even conversation worthy. <div></div><div></div><div>Regardless of the post, this entire argument wouldn’t have happened if the mod’s did their job, when they decide to make changes. If they never decided this was an issue, it would still require an apology because of the rashness nature of this ’removal’ of the front page.</div><div></div><div></div><div>Sphinn is responsible for their decisions and lack of them. Not the submitters, unless they broke TOS (which........wasn’t changed, hence the issue lies with those that write TOS). </div><div></div><div></div><div>P.S. That’s a nice link you got there Brent, gracias :D</div>

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from evilgreenmonkey 2195 Days ago #
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@JoshuaSciarrino Third Door Media has a set amount of programmer resource, which is split across all sites. Changes to Sphinn are made when they can be fit in, so changes cannot always be announced in advance.

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from DrPete 2195 Days ago #
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@evilgreenmonkey Thanks, Rob - I appreciate that the moderator job is a tough one, and I’m glad to hear the guidelines are getting hashed out. I’d hate to lose the fun stuff completely on Sphinn, but I understand the compromise. The key is that the system is fair, as much as possible. I just felt that Brian was getting dumped on a bit more than he deserved for one goofy conference write-up.

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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Brent: LOLOk, Rob Kerry clarified- thanks guys.Alright.  I’m done.  Thanks :-)I guess this was good just to clarify what Rob said on Twitter:"Useful posts will be in SEO/PPC/Email/Affiliate/Domain etc category and can therefore go hot. Photos/Birthdays etc is WC"Perhaps a future debate will come up about how "useful" a post has to be, especially if it also happens to be funny, lolThanks guys.

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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Dr.Pete Said: I just felt that Brian was getting dumped on a bit more than he deserved for one goofy conference write-up.Yup. Me too.Evilgreenmonkey said: so changes cannot always be announced in advance.I understand the balancing act. It’s tough. But if the decision was made two months ago. That’s a long delay. You could’ve easily placed a site-wide link saying ’Our TOS will now state no water cooler stories hitting the front page’.  Whether you implimented them [programming of the site not allowing a WaterCooler story to his FP] or not, on the site, the link with new TOS changes would be clear enough and wouldn’t take more than 5 minutes of one’s time. Even if your stretched thin. :DSo, I don’t think an excuse is necessary. An apology is. 

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from evilgreenmonkey 2195 Days ago #
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@DrPete I completely agree, that’s why the TDM and mod team are so excited about Sphinn v2 which is being created from scratch. We’d like to have a section for Water Cooler that can get lots of attention, whilst solving the issue of users visiting the homepage and saying "Who is John Smith, and why is his birthday the most important news in internet marketing this week?" or "Why do I want to look at photos of people I don’t know, I came here to keep updated with the internet marketing industry?".

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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lol good way to put it.Looking fw to v2 guys.

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from dannysullivan 2195 Days ago #
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Personally, I didn’t have a problem with this hitting the home page. We have lots of stuff that isn’t "serious" that sometimes hits the homepage. I don’t want the mods having to sit around and decide what makes sense or not. Someone does some comic, is that not Sphinn-worthy or not? Matt Cutts does his annual Halloween costume thing, if that goes hot, well, he’s pretty known in the search space -- why shouldn’t it go?Birthday posts, we have enough of an outcry that these shouldn’t go hot that the Water Cooler not going hot solution was proposed. Joshua, sorry this wasn’t clear to you and perhaps others -- though it’s also hardly been the most pressing issue. Sorry that Brian perhaps has taken it far too personally directed at him.I think the bigger issue is what happens in a case like this that’s not in the Water Cooler category. If the pony post goes into SEM Industry, ’cause it is kind of involving the SEM Industry,  who decides if it should go into Water Cooler or not? And if it doesn’t, welll, that’s what desphinn is for -- so those who think it’s not front page material can keep it off.I don’t have the answers to that. My feeling would be to go back to a system where posts in any category can go hot with the exception of birthday posts (since they were specifically annoying people) and let desphinns slow them down.

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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Sounds like some internal rewiring need. :) <div></div><div>Great response Danny and I look forward to Sphinn v2, I’m sure it will be amazing, just like most of TDM’s stuff.</div>

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from tamar 2195 Days ago #
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"Read the tagline in the logo.  "Internet Marketing" which I believe includes social media and email marketing and banner ads etc.  Am I wrong?"Brian, you’re a funny guy and I loved your presentation at PubCon, but I’m not sure how "ponies" is related to "Internet Marketing".  Sorry.--"we are talking about a ’meme’. Which...umm (cough) is Internet Marketing. :D"Okay, so using that logic, we should all submit the "5 things you don’t know about Mr. ABCD" posts that we find because they’re part of a meme.  I just don’t get that.  You could argue that any post is about "Internet Marketing" because most every post is about a blogger marketing himself/herself/something/Matt Cutts/ponies/whatever.  No, it’s not about the Internet Marketing, or perhaps phrased better: it’s not a high quality post on Internet Marketing that Sphinn wants to be known for.--It’s nothing personal, Brian, and no need to take offense.  The self-congratulatory pat-on-back stuff suffers two problems:1. It excludes members of the community who cannot actually participate in these real-life meetups.  2. It’s low quality.  Think about it this way:  there are thousands of users on Sphinn.  I’m sure all of us have upcoming birthdays.  Would you like it if Sphinn was saturated with Happy Birthday XXXX posts every single day?  That’s what prompted some recent decisions, because the closer-knit community (see #1) was neglecting the larger Sphinn userbase, and posts that people worked on for hours and days at a time were ignored in favor of these self-congratulatory "OMG DANNY SULLIVAN IS 65 YEARS OLD TODAY" posts.;)Don’t be too disappointed.  It really isn’t personal and it’s not about you.

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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As others have clarified, I took it personally because the policy has not been evenly enforced.  Glad to hear your new system will take care of that.I agree, the thing that worries me for the future is the subjectiveness of whether some posts might need to be moved to the water cooler or not.@Tamar- to clarify, I think you took my comments about the purpose of sphinn out of context.  They were solely in response to whether Sphinn is about "search" only.  In no way did I intend to say that the pony post was directly about IM.  It’s about the IM industry.  I have no illusions about whether it was actually useful.  It was meant to be a fun, funny post...  that’s all.

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from tamar 2195 Days ago #
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Thanks for the clarification.  I thought it was funny and cute too, but just not the high quality stuff that Sphinn strives for. Like I said, nothing personal, no hard feelings, etc etc etc. 

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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@Tamar All my feelings for you are soft. LOLUnderstood :-)

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from Sugarrae 2195 Days ago #
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Brian, it wasn’t funny. Period. It was a beat to death topic (bring something to pubcon and get pictures of everyone you can posing with/in it - anyone more than a few years old remembers jays glasses, boykins photo collage, hooley’s drinkbait... there was also hatbait, but I think the same of hatbait as I do your ponybait) that you brought no originality worth sphinning to. Sorry. Seen it, bored of it. If you’d rather believe people hate you, go for it. But it had zero to do with you and everything to do with the post/pony thing being lame - at least in regards to my Desphinn... I can’t speak for others.

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from Sugarrae 2195 Days ago #
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@joshuasciarrino first off, if you have something to say to me, go for it. Secondly, that wasn’t an "affiliate post" it was a post about me and that I AM an affiliate. In it, I talk about the use of social media, the future of affiliate marketing and give advice to newbie affiliates trying to make it work. Since Sphinn has an affiliate marketing category, it belonged there. But thanks for playing. Guess you still haven’t gotten over my blocking your ass on Twitter because you couldn’t handle that I didn’t agree with you using client sites to get backlinks for yourself.

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from seanmag 2195 Days ago #
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First of all - you’re all color blind.  It’s not a pink pony, it’s a white pony.Second of all, Brian - if you had a picture of Sugarrae riding the white pony, that would have been both funny and newsworthy - and would have made for a great title as well "SugarRae Rides The White Pony...Again".Thirdly, if an industry outsider were reading this thread, they would think - "What a bunch of twits".In the words of Brent "I’m a Legend In My Own Mind" Csutoras...END. (bitch)

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from bbcarter 2195 Days ago #
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lol sugarrae, always hilarious.surprise surprise, I have only read sphinn for 7-8 months, and not every post every day, so I’ve never heard of the posts you mentioned.

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from JoshuaSciarrino 2195 Days ago #
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Wow. Sugarrae. To be very honest, I wasn’t attempting to attack you, directly nor indirectly. Yea it says ’Rae Hoffman’ but I wasn’t aiming anything at you. I like affiliate related things on Sphinn, and social media related things on Sphinn, and blogging related things on Sphinn, etc.Rae, your totally taking things I said, out of context, and trying to pick a fight.My entire message was against BrentC and anyone that desphunn this because it’s not ’search’ related. My entire message was ’hey sphinn is about internet marketing, that included affiliate marketing, social media marketing, blogging, and search, not only search’.Sorry Rae, but the post wasn’t about you. Sorry if it wasn’t. :( Next time, I’ll make sure I indirectly, directly, talk about you, in a round about way of course. :D [Seriously, relax, I wasn’t aiming anything at you, plus I deeply respect you and your perspectives]If you check that interview about you (Rae), you’ll see BrentC sphunn it. That was my reasoning behind using that article. Just to poke at the idea ’sphunn= internet marketing’ not ’sphunn=search marketing’. I think BrentC understood my opinion and moved on. :) No hard feelings, just a small misunderstanding between me and him.So, Rae, next time you think someone is talking about you. Make sure they are ;) cause I sure as heck wasn’t. :)

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from MattMcGee 2195 Days ago #
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Since Brian held me up as the paragon of pointless humor on Sphinn early on in the comments above, I feel the need to clarify that I had nothing to do with the "Best Looking Men of SEO" post. In fact, I wasn’t even a candidate on Jaan’s post until my wife got involved.....

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from BrentCsutoras 2195 Days ago #
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Brent "I’m a Legend In My Own Mind" Csutoras - I kind of like the ring of that... :)

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from Michelle 1961 Days ago #
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searching for the right analogy and coming up empty. lets just say this is not front page worthy. desphinning in hopes it does not end up there.

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from Sugarrae 1961 Days ago #
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Jay’s Glasses, drinkbait, hatbait... it’s been done before and this is kinda just a rehash that doesn’t have much meaning...

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from tonyadam 1961 Days ago #
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Guys, was this really a necessary submit...Lets please stick to the Internet Marketing topics and stuff that deserves FP time.

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from Feydakin 1961 Days ago #
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Maybe I’m just cranky.. But, the more this happens the more people I see bring all sorts of crap to cons hoping to be the next hot thing.. Even if only for a minute..

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from BrentCsutoras 1961 Days ago #
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Pink Ponies have no place in search. I am a pink pony hater and i will fight to keep them away from our industry..

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from UtahSEOpro 1961 Days ago #
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yes i am desphinning my own submission. what the hell.

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from bbcarter 1961 Days ago #
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Desphinning because of all the desphinns. Plus it’s not really that funny.

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from robwatts 1961 Days ago #
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desphunn cos its about pink ponies and Ive never seen what happens when a hot item gets desphunn below a threshold

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from Jill 1961 Days ago #
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saw this last night and wanted to desphinn but seemed like it would come across bitchy and I’ve already been too bitchy this week

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from seanmag 1961 Days ago #
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I’m Desphinning because it’s a white pony and for all of the drunk girls at Pubcon, you would have thought Brian could have gotten a picture of at least one of them riding the white pony.

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from JoshuaSciarrino 1961 Days ago #
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I’m joining the crowd, water cooler shouldn’t be on the front page. :D

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from jonhenshaw 1961 Days ago #
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Wait a second! This was my idea! You Bastards!!! TOO SHORT: Your message must contain at least 50 characters.

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