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Published: Nov 26, 2008 - 06:41 am
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News Source: http://www.saadkamal.com
Published: Nov 26, 2008 - 06:41 am
Story Found By: saadkamal 1279 Days ago
Category: Link Building
10 Comments
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"How Do I Find Authority Links?"I can answer that without bulletpoints that involve using inurl: commands or Yahoo Site Explorer. Go search for what you want to be found for. See those results that come up? Those are authorities, since Google or whatever search engine you used is explicitly top ranking them.
@dannysullivan - Yup certainly! If I want to rank for a particular keyword, the top 10 sites that are currently ranking for that term probably have the highest relevancy.Getting relevant links is a key factor in linkbuilding and it can really help you to rank for that particular niche. [e.g. A baseball site giving me a link for a baseball keyword with a good anchor text]. So that link will certainly help me to rank for that particular term or even other baseball related terms. But I’m not sure whether "relevancy" is a good indication of Authority at all times -- Exact match domains often rank in top 10 for the keyword(s) regardless of its authority.But obviously getting links from your direct competitors will be really beneficial for your ranking, but at the same time getting links from some authority sites can increase the weight of your link profile & can give long term benefits.Thanks for pointing out :)
The sites that rank for particular words are not necessarily authority, but some serious sites that linked to them might be and it is those backlinks that helped those non-authority sites to rank in the first place. The trick in identifying whether competitor uses any of such backlinks is to have access to detailed backlinks that they have - difficult using Yahoo Site Explorer if your competitor has got many backlinks: just like Google YSE does not show all the backlinks and does not show the most valuable either (though they tend to show more valuable ones than Google).One strategy can therefore be - get complete list of backlinks for your competitor from a competitive intelligence company like ours, filter them for .EDU ones and see what those links are about - some might be genuine review links, in this case you can try contacting the people who made review who might actually include you in this review or do another one. It can also help spot spammy paid links from cracked .EDU sites. The irony is that your competitor might not even know they have those if they outsourced link building to a shady company that just got them the ranking without telling exactly how they achieved it.
There wasn’t much in that article other than ways to find .edu’s that are already linking out to your competitors. In fact you could summarize the article with ’check your competitor’s backlinks’. Yawn. Nothing in there about ways to convince .edu’s to give you links when they don’t currently link to your competitors. You figure out how to do that you’re going to kick some @ss.
Thanks for tips on finding links from those particular domains. I know search engines can be a powerful tool, but they remind of Excel - you have to know all the commands to get the full benefit of it.
@wheel - It seems like you haven’t read the full article.
No, it seems like I did read the full article. You got my opinion on what you wrote, after I actually read it. Checking backlinks and appending ’site:.edu’ on the end of a search isn’t ’how to get .edu links’. More irony - a tome on spam on this forum on the front page, yet IMO this entire article and posting is spam. It’s the efforts of someone looking to promote their SEO business through the use of poorly written articles, then having your friends all line up and sphinn it. All from someone whose contact us page consists of an anonymous submission form.
@wheel - I’m not a person who would go on and argue if someone has a different opinion. You wrote that - "Nothing in there about ways to convince .edu’s to give you links when they don’t currently link to your competitors."And my reply was just to point out that you have definitely missed the 3rd bullet point that covers how you can find these edu links using some advanced search operators (regardless of whether they are linking to your competitors or not).Obviously there tons of ways to do a tons of things. But the problem is not every is coming forward in the social community to share it. For instance, you seem like a very intelligent person who knows a lot about Link building (esp. Getting Edu Links), but unfortunately it’s me who is writing about it and instead of contributing you are criticizing. I understand that the article may not be as comprehensive as you might have expected. But it does give people a start who has no idea of where to get some authority links. Basically it was a partial extension of my original link building tutorial walkthrough - http://www.saadkamal.com/featured/link-building-a-complete-walkthrough/Anyway I Look forward to read your future posts on EDU link building. Cheers :) P.S - I have taken a look at all your Submissions here - http://sphinn.com/user/view/history/login/wheel
[quote]but unfortunately it’s me who is writing about it and instead of contributing you are criticizing.[/quote]Yeah, that’s me. I’m going to change my userid to SirPosts2Little.
" you have definitely missed the 3rd bullet point that covers how you can find these edu links using some advanced search operators"Wheel made a simple, valid point that finding link targets and securing a link are different animals. It’s the difference between figuring out who you want to take to the prom and leaving the prom with your dream date in your arms."it’s me who is writing about it and instead of contributing you are criticizing."Wheel and many other SEOs who don’t blog every day often contribute in other ways. Just because wheel chooses to post on a forum or spend most of his time making money instead of write a blog post doesn’t mean he’s not contributing.Also, I didn’t read your entire post (too busy) but your explanation of TrustRank and PageRank in your opening paragraphs are simply wrong. Either you don’t understand those concepts or your writing lacks polish. Your assumption that because .edu sites are trusted they’re high authority is ridiculous (based on the Yahoo patent, they’re not - the seed set are not ncessarily .edu/.gov sites not to mention the fact that there’s no evidence to suggest Google uses TrustRank - the Trust factor people talk about has to do with paid links/link schemes/character of the webmaster).Just because you got enough free time on your hands to publish garbage doesn’t make you better than people who know more than you that choose not to blog on a daily basis due to time constraints. If I were you I’d thank wheel for his advice instead of argue with him.