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Please see Matt Cutts comment. And who no things about GOOG better than Matt, Emmy and Oz ;-)
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Aaron Wall hasnt been accurate in telling the whole story about:
"I remember when one of my sites was voted against, and Google paid someone to steal it and wrap it in AdSense."
Waste of bandwidth. Ericlander admits: "I must admit that drawing a comparison like this is a bit of a reach without conducting any research.".
@MichelleRobbins I apologize if I have expressed myself in any way which indicates you have threatened me. You havent.
Hi Danny Thanks for answering my call for a feedback. very generous of you. I have to make a difficult decision. Should I post my reply to your feedback on Twitter where I feel more comfortable and sure that my tweets would stand untouched, uneditted and undeleted. Or should I return back to Sphinn which I left and post my reply here. In respect for you, here Im at your house replying to your above comment. I would focus my reply only on few main points. The rest I have already discussed on Twitter. It all started by a Desphinn! When i Desphunn the current article, it was because I thought it isnt worth going hot to reach Sphinn front page. I havent thought at all that Desphinning would be misunderstood by anyone as a way "to silence those with opposing viewpoints " or to deny them their freedom of speech. My followers on Twitter know very well that I use to promote my Sphinn submissions on Twitter asking for my followers "Sphinn it if you like it". In the same way I promoted my Desphinn on Twitter keeping in mind a "Desphinn is not "to silence those with opposing viewpoints " or to deny them their freedom of speech. As far as I recall, here are my first and second Tweets promoting my Desphinn: - Please Desphinn this nonsense. Thanks! http://sphinn.com/story.php... - If you dont agree @mattcutts & other decent Googlers are "Organized Crime Family", pls Desphinn http://bit.ly/34dlD At that same time pupped up on Twitter and we had few tweets exchange about censorship and freedom of speech. So far so good. Its therefore I was chocked and surprise to see Michelle Robbins at the same time posting the following accusations her on this thread: "but please, debate - give your perspective, dont seek to silence those with opposing viewpoints (as you did with your misdirection of the topic on twitter)." As I said the only thing I done on Twitter at that time was posting two tweets promoting my Desphinn. How could that be called Im seeking to silence my opposing viewpoints? Danny, You provide us with ability to Desphinn. When we practice it, your Sphinnmaster accuse us of seeking to silence our opposing viewpoints! Michelle Robbins , The Co-author of current article, The solicitor, The judge and the jury! When discussion take place among two Sphinners it take place on level ground where both parts have only their own arguments to "fight with". I.e discussion carried out on equal basis. But when discussion taking place between a regular Sphinner like me and a Sphinnermaster Michelle Robbins who have the power to edit my comments, delete my whole comment or unsubscribe me of Sphinn, such discussion wouldnt be carried out on equal basis at all. Therefore when MichelleRobbins posted here comment her accusing me of seeking to silence our opposing viewpoints because I Desphunn and promoted my Desphinn on Twitter, I was chocked. Further more reading the rest of MichelleRobbins comment was frightining indeed: "I was simply requesting that you use your freedom of speech to debate instead of censor. Your choice entirely. " First accusing me of " seeking to silence our opposing viewpoints". then "REQUESTING" me to debat instead of censor! None of MichelleRobins accusions I have commited! Knowing that MichelleRobins is a kind of co-author of current article as Eric wrote on his current post ((@MichelleRobbins) provided a lot of assistance in creating this article. She offered up an editorial review and some recommendations,...), she is Sphinnmaster, she has the power to edit my comments, she has the power to delete my comments, she has the power to unsubscribe me of Sphinn. I didnt feel comfortable at all of being on the receiving end of MichelleRobins "bombs". Among other reasons I have a lready mentioned on Twitter, therefore I left Sphinn. Google: The Internets Organized Crime Family I mentioned my reasons both here and on Twitter of opposing the title of Erics article. there is one thing I wish to add. When talking about corporates, lets keep in mind corporates are not stones. Corporates are people justvlike you and I. Corporates are employees, their kids and their families too. When you describe a corporate as "Organized Crime Family" you are harming employees of that corporate too. When kids of those employees read an artyicle similar to Erics current article and ask their parents: Dad! Whom you work for? Wwhat would you expect those parents to reply? I work for Organized Crime Family Corporate? Danny, I recall you mentioned once on Twitter your boys saying something: dad on the phone talking to Google. Dad is visiting Google etc.. If your sons see the title of current article. Would your own sons be proud to see you talking or visiting Organized Crime Family Corporate? Michelle Robins mentioned in her comment: "this is a place for discussion - and everyone is free to disagree - and hopefully will agree to disagree respectfully." I dont regard the title of Erics article posted her on Sphinn "Google: Internets Organized Crime Family" which Michelle Robins has assisted much in creating it as to differ with Google respectfully at all. Thanks for providing the bandwidth.Leaving you in peace. Back to Twitter!
MichelleIts your choice entirely too when accepting today title "Google: Internet Organized Crime family". Tomorrow you would accept another title "Google: Internet Nazi".I dont wish to be part of such community any more.Leaving you in peace. So much for freedom of speech in your country ;-)
MichelleSheesh. I thought you meant what you posted on twitter " where I live - freedom of speech is prized.".Am I not allowed to discuss what I like on Twitter? Where is my freedom of speech, Michelle?
JillShould I understand you agree that the title of this post is true and correct?
Eric,You disappointed me.Your posts title says: "Google: The Internets Organized Crime Family"You havent presented one single fact to support your posts title.
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Sphunn. Sebastian is always gooood for some technical talks :-)And thanks g1smd for Sphinning it!
References:- Matt Cutts post "Switching things around" - Danny Sullivans comment.- Two identical sites both listed on Google serps. Duplicates? site:mattcutts.comsite:dullest.com- The two identical sites rank on Google serps for several searches. For example:http://tr.im/kyuz http://tr.im/kyMb http://tr.im/kzah http://tr.im/kyQ8
Hey MattThanks for feedback and your time. Very kind of you.I understand and trust your judgement in this issue and glad to hear you are still thinking about it :-)
My friend, @Halfdeck"Why fix it when it aint broke?"Thats the traditional motto for people afraid of developments and changes. We wouldnt have an iPhone today if we applied your motto to the classic phone :-)Google WebSpam Team need to accept and adopt to changes.
@HalfdeckFrom the three point you mentioned as argument against reporting spam via DMs on Twitter, I can conclude that you are underestimating the capacity of Google and its WebSpam Team. The main issue here is; would Google webSpam Team be capable to adopt to the new era of social media, or just keep doing the same thing as before ignoring major developements and trends on the net.In fact @mattcutts has very simple easy decision to make. Should Matte expand the operation of his team to include social media as Twitter, or would he prefer to wait for his successor to do that later. A very easy decision to make, IMO :-)
@HalfdeckBut you forgot to mention the most important part of Matts statement "Still pondering" :-)
Btw, Lisa Barone has announced on Twitter today :Starting today Ill be blogging 3x a week for @smallbiztrends. My first post is up! http://tinyurl.com/cc5ce4 [shakes off nerves] :)Good luck, Lisa :-)
And I tried similar images of Matt Cutts using Google image Search. Here I go :-)Showing similar images of Matt CuttsI wonder whether Matt likes what he see :-)
I feel we are ignoring an important issue here. We SEOes all know for sure that we have two different "SEO Schools"; Classic SEO School and Modern SEO School. Among other differences the two schools differ on how much technical knowledge a successful SEO specialist must have. The Modern SEO School interact more with web development and follow the changes in web developements more than the Classical one does. With all due respects to All SEOes regardless of which SEO School they belong to.@Halfdeck"Unfortunately, Hariths submit title became a distraction (like I predicted)."As I mentioned in previous comment, the title of this thread was of @pageoneresults choosing. I use it on this thread because I thought its very suitable to trigger informative discussions. As such "Mission Accomplished", IMO :-)


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