mike.tekula
from mike.tekula 945 Days ago#
I think Tamar is being generous in calling this "strike two." This kind of behavior should result in the accounts being disabled forthwith. We dont need this kind of spam on Sphinn.
from mike.tekula 945 Days ago#
Desphunn in the spirit of Raes intent with this post.
from mike.tekula 945 Days ago#
I agree with the other disphinners. This should not be on the front page of Sphinn. This is more or less a worthless promotion. Desphunn.
from mike.tekula 1161 Days ago#
Google would need to calculate bounce rate in the algorithm on a query-to-page basis. Up until very recently Matt Inmans SEOmoz profile page ranked close to #1 for "oatmeal" (its on page 2 now). Im sure every user who was actually looking for information on oatmeal the food bounced right off that SEOmoz page. That page, for that query, probably is not relevant for the majority of users. That doesnt suggest the page or site lacks relevance or value otherwise.For the "long tail" of search, I dont see it to be in Googles interests of resource conservation to calculate bounce rate. Id be surprised if they werent already incorporating it, but Id expect it to be for a percentage of most-used queries - both because of the availability of statistically significant data and for resource efficiency.
from mike.tekula 1175 Days ago#
I was waiting for the "what is Googles goal" question - and dissatisfied with the answer, as I could have expected."Empowering users" sounds nice, but I really dont see how SearchWiki improves the user experience. I want to know how Google sees it fitting into building more profit for the company. Id be surprised if it increased market share at this point - so whats the real reason?
from mike.tekula 1255 Days ago#
Couldnt agree more. Ive worked for several small agencies who made this mistake. It just saps your motivation as an employee when you realize that management not only isnt interested in helping you get your name out there - but theyre actually <i>opposed</i> to it.Andy Beal made a nice mention of this in his post from a while back at Marketing Pilgrim titled Top 10 Business Mistakes Search Marketing Firms Make. Namely, his last point, "10. Theyre Scared of Losing Their Top Talent." I can definitely vouch for that being a major mistake. It was a big part of why I left two jobs.
from mike.tekula 1285 Days ago#
I think Rands point in this post was to argue FOR linking out to other sites...I thought that was obvious in his two supporting points for not linking out versus nine points for linking out, the former being thin at best, the latter well argued and with supporting citations. In other words, I dont think he was trying to really give "reasons for and reasons against." Hes making an argument by showing heavy support on one side versus very little on the other - in order to drive in that "final nail," as it were.
from mike.tekula 1319 Days ago#
I think quite often what people call "SEO Copywriting" IS keyword stuffing. These terms have no objective definitions, so its an impossible argument to have, rationally speaking. The case Im trying to make is that there is a point of diminishing returns at which it makes more sense to focus on publishing high-quality content geared for users than it does to find a few more places to work your keywords in.
from mike.tekula 1319 Days ago#
I dont think we should ever be writing copy to "strategically place keywords" in body text. So much of SEO occurs off-site, primarily in the form of inbound links. Unless youre writing some stellar content, youre not going to get the strong, editorial links that hold real value. All the keywords stuffed into every corner of your page arent going to squat if nobody actually likes your site and content. In my opinion: write for users, not for engines. Educate yourself on the keywords beforehand, but if youre spending hours trying to find places to stuff keywords into your copy youre not only wasting time, youre muddying up what otherwise might be compelling reading. Write well - and build links. Many will come on their own. Links are the reason SEOmoz.org has the power to rank Matt Inmans profile on Google page one for the word "Oatmeal." Not because he went around stuffing "Oatmeal" into every corner of the page he could.
from mike.tekula 1332 Days ago#
Kudos, Nick. This is spam in the worst sense of the word. Shameful.
from mike.tekula 1349 Days ago#
Quick fingers, planetc1. Beat me by one minute on this one.Great article as usual from Adam. His last few blog posts have read like chapters in a book on Internet Marketing that would be a "must buy" for anyone interested in the topic.
from mike.tekula 1350 Days ago#
Id like to think this is the case, but Im afraid the root causes of our economic instability as of late outweigh the possible positive impact of SEM. At some level the demand for just about every service is beginning to falter as consumers just have less in their pockets. Less money is being spent across the board - even the businesses that are doing a good job of marketing online are going to feel that. Smaller pie, smaller slice (even if its the BIG slice).SEM alone cant save the economy...I think the best were going to do is save ourselves.
from mike.tekula 1371 Days ago#
These tools were not built for "social networking experts." They were built to be used by everyone interested, however we see fit individually, to satisfy our own needs/wants for social networking. Everyone decides their own level of involvement. If a user decides to be less active than some others that doesnt mean that user "doesnt get it" - it means theyve decided it isnt a top priority for them.
from mike.tekula 1374 Days ago#
I feel like everyones just sitting until someone comes along and says "SEO stinks!" again. Then we have responses springing up feverishly from all corners of the blogosphere. Meanwhile, the instigator enjoys all the fresh new links to his/her website. Heres a thought: if were all so secure in our belief that SEO is, in fact, going nowhere, and that weve all got a great amount of job security based on the demand for our services, why do we feel the need to respond so passionately to claims that ought to be just baseless and laughable? Rather than play in to the chaos and help make a half-assed blog post into the center of attention, wouldnt we do better to just ignore it and go on with our work/research? Arguing publicly for your own value doesnt scream of self-confidence.
from mike.tekula 1375 Days ago#
I did sphinn this earlier in the week (http://sphinn.com/story/43882), but the title was subsequently changed to "The SEO Guide to Information Architecture." Adam was understandably trying to avoid throwing the oft-misused term "SEO" in there if it didnt need to be, but alas, you cant argue with the results of adding "SEO" to a title/heading; this submission went hot (mine didnt).
from mike.tekula 1382 Days ago#
I printed this out as soon as I downloaded it. Im going to hand it to the developer I work with this afternoon. Simply put: awesome resource.
from mike.tekula 1390 Days ago#
<div><font><font face="Arial" size="2">This all is very ridiculous to me. Im sorry, but who cares what Calacanis says about SEO. Sure, it might not be a good idea to invite him to SMX if the audience dislikes his speaking - thats just common sense for those who run the show. But why everyone is up in arms over his comments I just dont know. In my opinion, this guy couldnt matter less to me and my daily life. Sure, I know who he is, I know what hes done. Hes not exactly the least successful guy I can think of. So hes got some volatile things to say about SEO. I have worked at a few agencies, and honestly all Ive seen is the worst in people selling SEO services. So hes not way off base in bad-mouthing SEOs. There are a lot of dishonest people selling it out there. Thats why I appreciate those of us who do honest work for our clients and strive to get them results. Those of us who make money performing SEO on our own properties - well, your income should tell you just how full of crap this guy is, and his opnion shouldnt matter.</font></font></div> <div><font><font face="Arial" size="2">Jasons recommendation to focus on creating valuable content is right on the money. But is SEO just "spinning your wheels?" Absolutely not. Ive seen technicial revisions at a site for SEO purposes increase organic traffic by 75% virtually overnight with not a single change to content. We all know SEO is valuable, crucial even, so why get angry because someone says otherwise? Seems to me we all should stop worrying about this and get back to work finding ways to create real value for our clients - and prove it to them. Or get back to building up our own properties and growing our income.</font></font></div>
from mike.tekula 1391 Days ago#
@DarkMatter, I definitely agree - its funny, I was just telling someone who was confused about what I do that "its not rocket science." I wouldnt even say SEO is as complicated as an automotive engine. However, what clients really want when they hire an SEO firm is the technical knowledge along with advice - advice on where to put their limited resources to achieve the best ROI. With that in mind, holistic SEO is clearly not just about "optimizing pages" or "building links" but about serving as an extended marketing department for your client - you need, in other words, to make them more money through search engine traffic. You have to justify your existence with real, positive numbers. Otherwise, no matter how good a game you talk, theyll end up chopping you off as dead wood.
from mike.tekula 1396 Days ago#
^ Same here, PocketSEO.Im definitely not worried about Mr. Gamberts aspirations to trademark the term SEO. Hes taking advantage of the fact that those in control of the situation are under-informed. Itll never stick, hes wasting his time/money. If I were him Id put my efforts to more fruitful pursuits, like building a website that isnt entirely Flash-driven and tacky.
from mike.tekula 1407 Days ago#
This post follows almost to a T the section from Gladwells The Tipping Point covering this very topic. I think Gladwell does a fine job of offering this research/information and its utility.
from mike.tekula 1410 Days ago#
Hmm, in light of the fact that Matt Cutts himself linked to Dannys open letter I feel I should temper my statement above. I would hope, though, that Google would have come to this decision on their own. The "trust us, were not cheating" bit wouldnt have sat too well with anybody.
from mike.tekula 1410 Days ago#
@LanceLoveDay Im certainly not one to discount Dannys influence, but I think this was how Google was going to go from the very beginning. There wouldnt be much of a defense on their part if they went forward offering SEM services through Performics. I think youre right to say that the timing was significant. I would liken this to some degree to President Regan demanding that Gorbachev "tear down this wall" - when it was clear the Berlin Wall was coming down in short fashion. A well-timed statement, but the causality is something of an illusion. I will say that search marketers as a whole and their potential outcry probably influenced the decision, and Danny is arguably the most prominent member of the group...I just cant imagine that his open letter by itself foiled any plans on Googles part to start offering SEM services. This had to be the way they were going from the beginning.
from mike.tekula 1411 Days ago#
Dannys original call was indeed correct. This is the right move on Googles part - the only move, really, that they could have made. I have to think this was the plan from the beginning - it would have been naive of them to think the continued operation of Performics could go on without a ton of negative press. I cant buy that Dannys open letter was the cause of the decision as the post seems to imply, but his outcry at the onset of the DoubleClick decision was insightful and spot-on.
from mike.tekula 1411 Days ago#
I agree - Rands modesty is part of his charm, but this is definitely a valuable post. Theres a lot of discussion in the SEO community centered on how important it is to be spam free, informative and authoritative if youre going to attract any decent links...but here we have a few examples of the explicit recommendation of these criteria on authoritative/trusted pages written for those who do the linking - people outside the sphere of SEO for the most part, perhaps even unaware of what "SEO" is. If nothing else it lends itself to the argument we need to make to some clients about the importance of building authoritative and informative pages before theres any likelihood of gaining quality inbound links. Some of my clients have come to me saying, "well company XYZ said theyd get me 500 directory links for $350" (yes this still goes on). This is the perfect reference to point them to as a way of reminding them that rational human beings do the most powerful linking, and theyre not going to link to a website that is spammy or doesnt offer remarkable content.
from mike.tekula 1412 Days ago#
Absurdly expensive? It can seem that way at first, but consider the math. Theres an estimated 300 million people living in the United States. If you pay each one $1 million for the next three years, thats just under $1 billion. That saves Microsoft $39 billion compared to what it was going to spend on purchasing Yahoo.That is some seriously flawed math right there.Humbug to this April Fools thing. Humbug, I say.


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