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Folks!
Time For Healing....
Our SEO/SEM communities have been through some rough time recently.
People have apologized.
Now we need to forgive, resume friendships and make new friends ;-)
GrayWolf,
Lets take a look at an example from real life
Matt Cutts Unsubscribing To SEOmoz !!!
http://sphinn.com/story/61053
In that thread the subject was discussed in a friendly manner. Rand chimmed in posting the feedback of SEOmoze.
However Sphinn Admin started a Desphinning campaign (unjustified IMO), just after I submitted the post, by these words:
"If people wanted to know everything that Matt says on Twitter, they would follow him on Twitter.".
You yourself (a Sphinn moderator) Desphunn too, by few words:
"lame this is not news"
Though the submission wasn't under "News" but under " Topic Type: Discussion"
No wonder to see janecopland Desphinning just because:
"In other news, SEOs jump on bandwagon! Three-exclamation-points-in-a-row!"
Such attitude from Sphinn Admin and a moderator (you) not only discourage people like me of submitting posts, but maybe hundreds other members of doing the same. Was that Danny's intention when he created Sphinn? I doubt it.
Folks,
Thanks a bunch for posting your comments. Highly appreciated.
However, its my comments policy to require "Sphinn Love" from any kind Sphinner posting a comment on my threads :-)
Sooo.. pls. go ahead and pay your dues :-)
- NickWilsdon
- neyne
- semscholar
- evilgreenmonkey (thanks for posting the links of Sphinn Admin and moderators)
- nsmseo
- DLPerry
- rishilakhani
Danny,
Thanks for chiming in. Very informative educating comments, indeed. Much appreciated.
Halfdeck,
My 20 years old daughter would be very mad at you if you keep talking about Britney Spears like that :-)
Good morning, Nick,
My current submission is under "Topic Type: Discussion". Not as "News" . I believe the subject is worth further discussing here on Sphinn. Therefore the submission. :-)
PS. Something wrong with comments submission. sorry for posting twice
Rob,
weak up :-)
"If people wanted to know everything that Matt says on Twitter, they would follow him on Twitter."
Did you mean that we shouldn't discuss on Sphinn what take place or said on other media? are you building a new Soviet Union on Sphinn?
Do you intend to isolate Sphinn from the outside world and the outside world from Sphinn? communism in 2008?
Amazing!!!
Rob,
I assume you are talking here as Sphinn Admin, not Rob as a person, right?
So you think that there is no substance in a subject like:
The Head Of Google Spam Detection Team and Google Spokesman to the webmaster/SEO/SEM communities Unsubscribing SEOmoz (popular name among the SEO/SEM communities, to say at least) mentioning two articles posted by two fellow Sphinn members!
As to your Desphinn, I think its unfair. You as Admin of Sphinn are most welcome to remove or edit posts.
But as an Admin you have more weight than the rest of us members of Sphinn. Therefore, you shouldn't Desphinn as Admin. You can't be both a member and Admin at the same time :-)
Halfdeck,
"Its the fact that this submit can potentially exacerbate an already ugly situation and it gives air time to more negativity in the SEO industry, which we're all tired of."
No. Free discussions could only add strength to our community. Hiding things is a sign of weakness. Whay should we be afraid of telling things as they are?
Btw, this thread and one of my yesterday threads illustrate very well that we have at the moment "Desphinn Tyrrany" at Sphinn. Say welcome to Digg ;-)
Folks,
I'm gonna require from every Sphinner posting a comment on this thread to pay me in Sphinn Love, including but not limited to: NickWilsdon , rishilakhani, evilgreenmonkey, Halfdeck, Lyndon and neyne. Pls go ahead and Sphinn. :-)
In return I'm gonna Sphinn anything you submit (including crap) for the rest of my physical life :-)
And thanks a bunch for those kind Sphinn friends who Sphunn so far; JohnHGohde and UtahSEOpro. Power to you ;-)
Skitzzo,
"@Harith, your "Sphinn Love" comments..."
That was humour. I guess all the other friends here have understood it as such too :-)
Rand,
Just wish to thank you for chimming in. Very kind of you.
And I really feel this thread deserves to hit the front page of Sphinn allowing people to read the friendly discussion including Rand's feedback.
Blame it on our Admin Rob who started the "Desphinning Campaign" by these words:
"If people wanted to know everything that Matt says on Twitter, they would follow him on Twitter."
Oh well ;-)
g1smd,
I'm gonna follow you on Twitter right now. You may wish to take a look on whom I following. I guess you would find several of the Twitters you had followed too. Hope that helps :-)
Folks!
"Another ridiculous move by Google to prevent people from promoting themselves."
Twitter allows people to promote themselves by mentioning their URLs once under item "Web". There is no need to repeat mentioning the same URL under "Bio" too ;-)
When Matt posted his comment on Twitter addressed to Evan Williams (Co-founder and CPO of Twitter), Matt referred to DaveN specific post:
"If you checkout my twitter page davenaylor you can see 2 links 1 is nofollowed that’s standard but I dropped a “http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk” into my Bio :)"
DaveN is encouraging people to repeat mentioning their URLs under Bio too with the sole purpose of gaming Google PageRank system!!
That is SPAM! Therefore the title of this submission! ;-)
DaveN,
But I see Nick Wilsdon has already posted on Twitter:
"@davenaylor hehe you big spammer you, why would you ruin Twitter like that?!? */running off to delete my post http://tinyurl.com/5npdfr "
Nick,
"Personally I don't see this as spamming twitter, it's not in anyone's face or ruining their use of the service."
The problem with DaveN post is not his love to Twitter and its community. Its the intention to encourage people to aquire a dofollow backlinks through Twitter community and hence manipulate PageRank system.
And lets keep in mind, any attempt to gaming Google PageRank system is considered spam.
Google Webmaster Guidelines
"Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links."
Folks,
Here is what I think is going to happen within few days. All links mentioned in Twitter "Bio" would be nofollow :-)
Halfdeck,
If it was just for to out a loose-end, DaveN could have written directly to Twitter or Google.
For posting it in public and encouraging people to do the same: No..no thanks for DaveN.
Take a look at some of the results:
http://sphinn.com/story/60692
Story: Twitter Backlink Tip
DaveN,
If I did upset you as a person, pls accept my apology. It could be if you and I meet in real life, we migt like each other as persons.
But as a SEO, I still belive that in the current case of Twitter, you are promoting spam in daylight. I don't like that ;-)
Story: Twitter Backlink Tip
DaveN,
"and i'm pretty sure the "Rumor has it.. Matt Cutts might join Apple as Head Of iPhone Team" isn't true either"
That was a joke :-)
Matt is an iPhone freak and he keeps posting iPhone posts, as you might have noticed. Therefore the "Rumor has it ..." :-)
"i feel sorry that you got so many negs."
No worries. 7 desphunn out of a community of several thousands, doesn't matter :-)
I see Lisa Barone has posted on Twitter a comment to GrayWolf present post:
"Moderately infuriated over @graywolf's BlogHer post. Give me a f'n break, Michael. Why don't you attend a show before linkbait whining? Pfft" :-)
Story: Is This The End For Matt Cutts?