Aviva

from Aviva 8 days ago #
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@pageoneresults - if you actually read my blog post, you would see that this story is NOT about Trifecta, but about web directories.

from Aviva 8 days ago #
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Apology accepted.  Most people are too proud to apologize publicly, so I have to say I'm impressed with that.

> aren't you all covering the same thing?

No, I'm applying a general tool to a specific industry that a lot of webmasters have an interest in.

from Aviva 8 days ago #
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Thanks Michael!

I'll keep the above comments in mind when choosing titles for future submissions.

from Aviva 90 days ago #
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Thanks SlightlyShadySEO.  I had thought about doing that.  The problem is that lots of other websites, presumably in good faith, have used these articles, which they obtained from the article sites.

from Aviva 90 days ago #
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I had thought that wouldn't be worth it, but your words are very encouraging.  I'll go ahead with doing this.  I really appreciate your help SlightlyShadySEO.

from Aviva 90 days ago #
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Thanks for your input Brian.  The articles were commissioned, but from several different authors, although I've had commissioned articles re-sold in the past too!  So, I don't think it was any of the authors that did this, but I'm checking into it.  Hopefully, you're right about this being a short term issue.

from Aviva 181 days ago #
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from Aviva 182 days ago #
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Thanks very much for the kind words!

from Aviva 191 days ago #
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Sour grapes from someone who couldn't sell his forum about directories.

It was originally listed for sale in October 2007 for a minimum offer of $5K on Sitepoint:
http://www.sitepoint.com/marketplace/auction/14179

No bids were placed.  The forum had a big notice that it was for sale on it since October 2007.  Asking price was $2,500.  Apparently, no offers either at that amount either.

So he closed it.  It wasn't making any money, by the owner's own admission.  The forum was neglected and hardly anyone posted any more.

Ho hum.

Oh, and what noteworthy directories did this guy run anyhow?

from Aviva 195 days ago #
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> if you're not a customer of NetSol, why would you use their search?

A lot of people, especially in a corporate environment, search for domains in two steps.  First, they check what is available.  Then, after taking some time to decide which domain they want, shop around for the best place to register it.

from Aviva 204 days ago #
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You say "The fact is that Google does still give weight to this directory" and then complain that the page you are on "is PR0."  If you are just looking for useless, hollow PR, then head over to the DigitalPoint link sales forum and you can get all the low quality crappy links you want for cheap.  If you are looking for long term marketing for your site, get many listings in top professionally run directories, such as the V7 direcctory.

from Aviva 238 days ago #
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Domaining is so much easier and more profitable than SEM!

from Aviva 242 days ago # - show/hide this comment
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Teachers are supposed to teach questioning skills, not blind obedience to authoritative sources...

from Aviva 242 days ago #
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Happy ending!

from Aviva 251 days ago #
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Happy ending.

from Aviva 307 days ago #
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This is an absolutely brilliant article.

I especially can't understand Rand's point #6. It's like he criticizes directory owners who add listings on their own.

Thanks for the well thought out response.

from Aviva 331 days ago #
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"I define a manipulated linking pattern as links obtained purely in pursuit of search rank with no thought given to topical relevancy."

Like a chiropractor getting links from Wordcamp attendees, who have websites on a wide variety of topics, for publishing photographs of them? Matt Cutts doesn't seem to think that's manipulation:

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/whitehat-seo-tips-for-bloggers/

"there's a lot of fishy looking sites and URLs there, along with oddly similar file and sub-directory naming conventions."

Directory submissions maybe? -

http://www.dmoz.org/Business/Investing/

http://botw.org/top/Business/Investing/

http://www.avivadirectory.com/Business/Investing/

from Aviva 350 days ago #
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Either you edited the interview or that's not the real Rae - I didn't see the F word even once...

from Aviva 371 days ago #
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Nice that everything is broken down and spelt out so clearly with practical tips.

from Aviva 372 days ago #
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Happened to me. Terminated sometime on Friday, back up again on Monday. Didn't get an email from them though.

from Aviva 377 days ago #
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How about v7n forums username?

from Aviva 378 days ago # - show/hide this comment
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Good article, although Rand incorrectly lumps in quality directories with paid links.

from Aviva 378 days ago #
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Great to have a new community!

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