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Is Google putting pressure on Yahoo? Or are they changing tactics. I've noticed that the site I've been most succesful with regarding Google PR didn't have a single paid link, not in directories or anywhere else. Maybe Google is thinking that if I don't pay for directory links, it's unlikely I'm paying for other links from blogs or elsewhere - so the links that do point to my site must be truely organic ones and of great value ...
I think this is a very good discussion. I learned this the hard way (just check my sphinn submissions). My own get the least attention, but when somebody else has submitted my blog posts, it's gone hot. So my learning was, it doesn't pay off to self submit. Submit others and maybe, they'll start read your blog.
I do self submit on Twitter though. And automatically on Facebook. But I see that as different as I'm not asking for votes there but sharing with my followers.
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Ooops, another post with no real information value gone hot in only very, very few minutes. Hmm, wonder how long it'll last ... ;)
Quick, say something intelligent ...
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Naah, can't think of anything
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Jeez, people. I never said it wasn't funny or not worth going hot ...
Ehh, isn't this exactly what social media marketing is all about? Giving to the community - building popularity and reaping the profits?
I wonder why they are doing this now. I've been getting a lot of new followers in the last days that seem to have been listening to a webinar from Mike Klingler. Many of them were following about 2.000 people, with around 100 followers and less than 10 updates. I don't know what Mike said in the webinar, but I'm not sure it was all good tactics.
Yeah, that's the funny thing. It's not extra work - it's less work. Even though you could only cover 1/3 of the sites in that time, you'll probably be having three times links out of it since you now have "real email addresses" instead of sending 90% directly to the spam folder.
Very true. I think reputation management has become easier though, while reputation "manipulation" haw become a lot harder, if not impossible. Social media puts a new strain on companies. It's quality and sticking to promises that counts today.
You're not a marketer if you don't get the ROI of a blog. You're an advertiser.
Story: Baby Girl Born on Twitter!
Congrats on the baby :)
And no, it was not the first one on twitter, not even for a member of Sphinn, because I twitted the birth of my son last Wednesday, beating him by two days :) My twittering was not as thorough though as it was a fast waterbirth and I was in the water with my wife, unable to twit from there.
http://twitter.com/hjortur/statuses/811254478
This is what the voting system was intended to do, filter out the quality. Instead, it just filters out the funniest nonsence and scandals. Geat article, Ruud.
Fabricating news is considered pretty serious in the media, not every day practice (at least in media with self respect).
Creating good stories for internet marketing is quite ok, if they are not portrait as true news. An internet marketer with self respect finds the means to get a good story out without just lying and risking the reputation of the client and of him self.
No, it's not the kill of internet marketing nor is it the end of the world. It's just bad marketing. Lyndon should have read more than just the cover of Godin's "All Marketers Are Liars" to understand what it's all about.
Story: Linkbait at any Cost?
I'm a bit surprised at the short-sightedness here. Sure, this story is excellent linkbait and will generate thousands of inlinks. And probably money.co.uk will recover from the negative attention. But I see no difference between this and spamming.
Spam is done because it works, even though you use unaccepted methods. Saying that it was the journalists fall to believe the story is incredible. Yes, they should have checked the sources. But they probably trusted money.co.uk, which they will never do again. I'm pretty sure this has done big damage to money.co.uk's reputation within the media industry and I wouldn't bet on that to recover.
It's a cheap way to get links and only damages the industry as a whole and it's reputation. I would not do this for any of my clients. My role is to take the truth, spice it up with good narrative style and spread the word, not cook up fictive stories that ruin trust and reputation.
THis story was just SPAM!
well, it's a good practice to evaluate the pages you're trying to get links from. That's why it's good for link builders.
There are probably many ways to address this and if you really want to take everything into account, it's going to be very complicated. So we have to figure out a reasonably effective but yet simple way.
It can be very difficult to tell the newbie from the spammer. I would rather tolerate a little spam and keep all the quality, than shuting out all spam and a lot of new quality stuff at the same time.
So the best solution would be ... well, I don't know. Nofollow up to 5 or 10 sphinns and a reputation. Maybe newbies should have to have x amount of comments and sphinns before their first submission? Isn't the spam usually from new accounts?
Excellent point there. It's amazing to think about how long it takes businesses to realize the imporance of SEO. The positive sight is the growth potential of the industry. Will the SEO market be swallowed and merged into the big marketing agencies? As advertising continues to die, it's not unlikely they will follow their clients in that direction.
Story: Twitter Secrets Revealed
There are some good points there. Like don't follow everybody right away, you'll look like a spammer. I'm new to twitter but have been doing very well, and my strategy is very similar to yours.
You talk about Guy Kawasaki. I've noticed that the number of my followers always takes a jump after a conversation with him. It's a bit funny, like I must be worth following just because Guy bothers to talk to me.
Story: Do You Trust a Blogger?
I guess the keyword here is honesty. Blogs are a great platform for companies to become honest and by being honest, you become trustworthy and build up trust.
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