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I considered some remark alluding to the death of the free internet but then I realized it died long ago.
Assuming of course it ever existed in the first place.
be sure to subtract out the searches being done by other seo's before you start mortgaging the house ;-0
We're destroying and abusing the very nature of social media. Which is ironic when so many of the articles we produce ourselves describe processes to leverage social media.
certainly helps to reduce the need for extenisve speculation doesn't it?
Most revealing line IMO
Similarly, if you tend to prefer results from a particular shopping site, you will be more likely to get results from that site when you search for products.
I've known Andy for a long time and even though he may not tell you what you want to hear, I've always known him to tell the truth. naturally, there are some who would take issue with that.
You may not like hearing what Ammon is telling you Milan, but he is trying to help you. You have confirmed that your traffic has dropped Milan but that is not what is commonly known as the sandbox.
Something happened to your traffic I'm sure and you just have the wrong terminology BUT if you continue thinking it is the sandbox and look no further, you will not find the "real" reason it dropped.
Hmmmm, I thought I was familiar with everyone that has ever said anything even remotely intelligent or even interesting about seo or sem but in #11 who is this heil person he's talking about?
Maybe I can help at least a little with this particular topic. The key is to NOT try to explain what you do to them and instead listen to what they say when you ask what they would like to see happen. Maybe the problem is not them not listeing to you, maybe it's more of you not listening to them.
Stick to explaining what they already understand and you'll get much better communication. Get better communication and you'll be able to help a lot more people, faster and with less stress on both of you.
maybe it is more difficult to read for some than others Jim Bob. I'm truly sorry you didn't find any value in the post. I always try very hard to only choose topics that I honestly feel provide some useful insight. I chose the topic because the value of directory submissions and pretty much all free links are a hot topic in the seo community and I just wanted to let my readers know there is value in them if you are willing to put in a little extra work. It works for me anyway and there's nothing I do that you couldn't do as well.
I don't care much about people not enjoying my posts. you can't write anything and expect everyone to like it. But I do want to point out how rude you are being to the people who sphunn the article. It is actually them you are insulting more than me. A little decorum and respect for your peers goes a long way in tight knit communities.
bob "poorly structured" massa
It would appear the basic concepts of a democratic system are also difficult to grasp. Like I said before, I'm not offended but by asking the question you are questioning the judgment of your peers not me. your question doesn't come off as demeaning to me. it comes off as disrespectful of the opinion of others.
*Why is it on the front page*
It is on the first page because enough people who don't seem to share your sentiments voted it there.
My point is simply that you could have voiced your own opinion of the quality of the content without insinuating those who may disagree made a mistake. You're entitled to your opinion as are they.
I'd even go as far as to say that you owe the Sphinn community an apology for casting them in the light that you did.
You're completely missing the point. It has very little to do with Sphin beyond the familiarity of a specific market with the target. It is not about sphinn at all. It is about marketing and if you are offended by it you are losing out on the EXTREME value of one of the most insightful posts I've ever seen. As a marketer, you shouldn't be offended, you should embrace the concept.
1. Voluntarily Sphinning = "Honest" Linking
THIS has always been the thing I most wished I knew how to change. there seems to be this very strange perception that paying for what you want is somehow less honest than just hoping it happens. There is nothing dishonest with paying for what you want that you don't own or control. In fact it could be argued that in many ways it is far MORE honest.
You may think that Google does not understand that concept because of their war on paid links, but I believe what John is trying to point out is that they DO understand it far better than most of the people calling themselves seartch marketers.
I don't think anyone is being a crybaby any more than anyone is trying to create a level playing field. There is simply no such thing. It's just business and Google has a right to run it's business legally. So do you.
http://www.seo-scoop.com/2007/04/20/the-internet-marketers-manifesto/
I always thought the member rep, comment voting thing at search engine watch, (the first place I ever saw that type of thing) was a great way to encourage people to make quality posts. I thought the "xxxx is just really nice" quotes were kind of lame but the point certainly got across.
Absolute gold !! This should become the book of pricing in every marketers bible!
Michel Fortin, btw. is a name the SEM indusrtry doesn't speak often enough in my opinion.
after careful consideration of the analytical elucidation offered by the illustrious Mr. F, I find the most logical course for myself would be to enlist the assistance of someone who could explain the explanation to me.
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Like all the rest of us as a commodity. We're all worth what the next person is willing to pay.
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this gives me a chance to use my all-time favorite joke
Customer: I need an SEO and I'm willing to pay whatever you're worth
SEO: Are you crazy man? I can't live on that!
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*NOTE: this is the second time I posted and it only took a few of the first characters. Sorry gang :( I'll try again.*
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>and another useless comment by the troll<
it's oK jill. I actually like troll's post. Trolling can be entertaining and I often like the drama. BUT, I like bus fumes and paying full retail too.
>We have to hold SEO children as collateral...:)
Aaron should be free to write what he likes as long as he is not breaking any laws of the land. Matt should be free to repsond to him, (or anyone else for that matter), any way or any time he chooses. anything less and that is not a democratic web or representative of freedom of speech. that is more representative of someone using power and influence to manipulate perception.
No matter which side of the coin you choose to see, this is not about two individuals. It is about marketing and a brilliant example from both camps in my humble opinion.
I think they should both take it up a notch. Besides, I love the drama for it's entertainment value. But then again, I love the smell of leather on the hoof.
aaron wall is the voice of the working SEO. intelligent, articulate and honest. a rare combination in this industry that makes it well worth the time to listen to every word.
>The whole SearchKing PageRank debacle from years and years ago should have taught people to go under the radar way back then.
>The whole SearchKing PageRank debacle from years and years ago should have taught people to go under the radar way back then. <
That's a shame anyone sees it that way. No one should need to "go under the radar". People should be free to conduct legal business honestly and openly. anytime there is even a discussion about somebody having a need to go under the radar, it should indicate to all, especially google, that something is broken with the system.
I was hoping the Searchking "lawsuit" would have taught people they have a right to monetize their websites leagally without fear of retribution.
That said, I certainly understand the sentiment and I have learned to hold my cards much closer to my chest because for some strange reason I still can not understand, Google has made a decision to turn the issue into some kind of war. But when it is a war against human nature, it is a war that can not be won.
That too is a shame because it forces people to alter their perceptions about things like ethics, honesty and principles. if there is profit, people are going to seize the opportunity and find a way to justify their actions. That is basic human nature and that is as it should be for people and for Google.
BTW, I have NEVER looked at the SearchKing lawsuit as a debacle. I have always viewed it as standing up for what I believed was right. I wouldn't want to, (I didn't want to then), but I'd do it again if I felt I was being wronged and that was my best avenue of resolution.
Au contriare Incredibll. Massa assumes no such thing. He knew long ago you don't want people agreeing with you. that's your hook and not a bad one either. He believes if anyone did agree with you, you'd change position.
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